Why do people have issues with others not being fans of the SNES?

[Team Andromeda]

You're so hypocrite and full of shit it hurts.
You've stalled this and countless other threads for dozens of pages just 'cause you can't handle "reading" anything not appreciative about the sacred cows of The Church of TA's Wondermega.

? I praise both systems can see both systems had their plus and minus points . Its you're the one that's been totally and utterly hypocritical on this matter and only because you're hell bent on making the Mega Drive look brilliant at all costs . Lets not compare Mortal Kombat or Smash TV becasue they're made by different teams (read the Snes versions are actually better but I can't bring myself to say it ) , but lets compare Streets of Rage to Final Fight even though one made In-House and the other by a 3rd party. It's embrasshing the levels you are getting at, to smash the Snes to bits and make the Mega Drive look utterly amazing .

You need to stop with the inults and just accept that some people have their own views on games and that the Mega Drive and Snes had their plus and minus points .

Hadn't you and chilled harped so much about the SNES' superior hardware and software quality

It some area's its superior and in others it not , why you get so worked up about it I do not know . Software quailty is subjective and I liked the Snes more for the platform games and that's it . I actually liked the Mega CD above the Snes or Mega Drive for its software .

Also Yeah the WonderMega is fab, looks stunning and easily the best looking 16 bit system and yeah... It actually does make each and every Mega Drive and Mega CD games sound better when using the Game DAP mode , but never mind

[Black_Tiger]

Because people see a larger sprite count and think it's better without realizing there's another limitation that negates this benefit.

This said, there is one thing the SNES sprite system has that is better no matter how you look at it: any 8px silvers that are off-screen don't factor into the bandwidth no matter the size of the sprite, while on the Mega Drive even off-screen sprites eat bandwidth. This gives the SNES some more wiggle room before hitting the scanline limit, which can be useful if there's a lot of stuff going on, or more importantly to use it as a second plane when mode 7 is in use.

Isn't that just one more spec/attribute which is only a superiorority when taken out of context? When you add up all of the bottlenecks for SNES sprites, it seems to be at a major disadvantage and the best example seems to be the library of games which were actually released.

The PC Engine must not count sprites overlapping off-screen either, because so many games feature a horizontally scrolling strip of sprites which is as wide as the screen size, which is also the horizontal sprite pixel limit in 256 pixel-wide resolution.

[chilled]

Hadn't you and chilled harped so much about the SNES' superior hardware and software quality, then me, Kamahl, Sik, etc. maybe wouldn't even have posted in this thread.

I'm amused that you need to post in every thread/forum where someone doesn't agree with you. I'm less amused when you insult people in a way Sik or Kamahl would never do. I guess you still have other things to learn from them.

I myself, as you may know, do actually prefer the MD and its library over the SNES, but that doesn't prevent me from saying that I think Nintendo had overall superior hardware & library, whatever the reasons were (2 years later, third parties, add-on chips, etc.), which actually hurts a little to reckon, and I guess that's the reason you get so mad and you come with your zillion stats to overcome the argument. That's revisionism, by the way (not the other way around). Not necesarily a bad one, though.

So how about you stop insulting people who disagrees on the MD superiority and you start explaining why you aren't a fan of both consoles as everyone here should probably be? I think we all agree it's a generation where the gap between consoles wasn't that far away both in terms of capabilities and results (ie the actual library). That doesn't seem to happen in any other generation.

[Barone]

You need to stop with the inults and just accept that some people have their own views on games and that the Mega Drive and Snes had their plus and minus points .

I wasn't even replying to you anymore but you decided to write your shitty jab posts as a follow up to my posts. If you can't deal with it, don't bring the argument in the first place.

I'm amused that you need to post in every thread/forum where someone doesn't agree with you. I'm less amused when you insult people in a way Sik or Kamahl would never do. I guess you still have other things to learn from them.

I can quote and reply to anyone I want, as many times as I want.
And it's not my fault you say a lot of things which can't hold any water. Opinion is one thing, invalid/wrong information is another thing.

You both cry babies are welcome to use the ignore list feature if you can't handle seeing your posts quoted by me and your misconceived info corrected.

[Barone]

Isn't that just one more spec/attribute which is only a superiorority when taken out of context? When you add up all of the bottlenecks for SNES sprites, it seems to be at a major disadvantage and the best example seems to be the library of games which were actually released.

QFT.

[sull56ivan2010]

I wasn't even replying to you anymore but you decided to write your shitty jab posts as a follow up to my posts. If you can't deal with it, don't bring the argument in the first place.



I can quote and reply to anyone I want, as many times as I want.
And it's not my fault you say a lot of things which can't hold any water. Opinion is one thing, invalid/wrong information is another thing.

You both cry babies are welcome to use the ignore list feature if you can't handle seeing your posts quoted by me and your misconceived info corrected.

Hey, I love it when someone can defend Sega stuff, but you're starting to get annoying and you're not making this any better by doing the same stuff Andromeda and Chilled are doing. (More so Andromeda. Chilled can't back up anything he says.)

[Team Andromeda]

I wasn't even replying to you anymore but you decided to write your shitty jab posts as a follow up to my posts. If you can't deal with it, don't bring the argument in the first place.

No you just quoted me twice in the same post, but never mind . By all means carry on insult people , not wanting others to express a different point of opinion and quoting people without realising it.

[Barone]

I'd love to see a list of games on the SNES and Genesis that show less of the playfield in the SNES version because of stretched pixels. Itchy & Scratchy is one, and it really affects the gameplay. I suspect there must be more.

Lion King is one where it really affects the gameplay. I can manage the double ostrich jump on the MD version. The SNES one is next to impossible for me, the extra input delay just makes it even worse.

Phantom 2040 does it too.

Zero the Kamikaze Squirrel is another one.

[sengoku 2]

Last night, i was playing akumajo dracula SFC ( super castlevania 4 ) on my crt sony trinitron.
What a wonderful game, last time i finished this game, it was perhaps on 2010.
This game always impressed in true condition.
This game has a crazy atmosphere.
Yes, several snes hits have crazy atmosphere, i'm thinking about akumajo dracula, super metroid and actraiser for example.
You can make specials effects, many sprites on screen, nervous gameplay in front of this snes games, it doesn't change anything.
Even on megadrive, among my favorite games, gameplay is important and also atmosphere is decisive.
For example, i like atmosphere of super shinobi ( revenge of shinobi ), it reminds me ninja B movies on 80's.
I prefer gunstar heroes compared to contra hard corps because artwork design is better on Gunstar Heroes.
And , gameplay is more confortable adjusted on Gunstar heroes.
Ok, it's good to make nervous games but don't forget playing comfort.
On gunstar heroes, it is nervous but thanks to the possibility of catching the enemy, it is confortable.
I am an arcade player, i have danmaku games as ketsui, do donpachi dai ou jou, esp galuda on PGM SYSTEM.
Yes, it is nervous but thanks to collision mask, we can dodge bullets.
I blame some megadrive games to make some games too nervous to the detriment of the balance game.

[chilled]

I said I was amused, not crying. Anyway as it seems I can't back up any of my arguments I'll stop stating that snes games were prettier, sounded better and were overall more polished, had better presentation and were more balanced since citing Legend of Zelda or Super Metroid doesn't seem to get me as far as citing DMA writes or whatever.

Just please don't make it look that there are only two fools on this forum/planet that think the SNES was a superior system. Oh well do whatever pleases you, I'll be ok with and TA should also, if I may. I much rather like you when you hack games than we you try to hack people.

[sull56ivan2010]

I said I was amused, not crying. Anyway as it seems I can't back up any of my arguments I'll stop stating that snes games were prettier, sounded better and were overall more polished, had better presentation and were more balanced since citing Legend of Zelda or Super Metroid doesn't seem to get me as far as citing DMA writes or whatever.

Just please don't make it look that there are only two fools on this forum/planet that think the SNES was a superior system. Oh well do whatever pleases you, I'll be ok with and TA should also, if I may. I much rather like you when you hack games than we you try to hack people.

All three of you need to leave.

[chilled]

All three of you need to leave.

Yes we do.
I'm just trying to reach to page 50 in order to avoid seeing the top of page 49 which doesn't look pretty at all.

Segonku 2's last sentence is interesting, coming from a hardcore shmup player (at least he looks like one). Maybe one of the problems of all these games being so arcadey is that they weren't adapted to a console world, gameplay expectations wise. Surely Nintendo not coming from the arcade didn't have this issue. Still, it seems a bit far fetched as there are many other reasons to as why the games were overall more difficult/unforgiving on the MD.

[gamevet]

. Surely Nintendo not coming from the arcade didn't have this issue. Still, it seems a bit far fetched as there are many other reasons to as why the games were overall more difficult/unforgiving on the MD.

Donkey Kong, Popeye, Punchout!!!, Vs. Baseball, Vs. Tennis and Donkey Kong Jr., just to name a few.

[Thief]

All three of you need to leave.

That was a pretty rude thing to say. And not that this place is so active we can tell others to shut up and ban. Just look on the bright side to how these guys sparked a some great chit chat.

[Barone]

All three of you need to leave.

Why don't you leave the thread since you're so unsatisfied?