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    Quote Originally Posted by tryphon View Post
    ZX Spectrum and Amstrad CPC shared some parts of hardware, such as CPU, which made those kind of"downports" easier. Same for Atari ST and Amiga. Absolutely not the case for PS and Saturn.
    The truth is elsewhere !
    most CPC ports were graphicaly untouched from the ZX, using mode 1, despite mode 1 having far less constrains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gogogadget View Post
    I've played both, the Saturn version you don't immediately lose all speed when you crash into a barrier so... superior version to me.
    I was on about Gfx . And good job onthe N64 there's far more games on that system that look and run like crap compared to the Saturn . Mind you I've lost count of the number of PS2 games that look like crap
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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Andromeda View Post
    Because it was the lead platform and had the bulk of developers backing ?. The Amstard CPC was a much more capable machine that the ZX spectrum, but thanks to ZX being the lead platform and the platform that sold by far the most, many ports to the Amstrad were simply ZX code and not using the system at all. Many 360 ports to the PS3 suffered untill corps made the PS3 the lead platform rather than the 360 .

    And you know there's a ton of N64 games with rubbish graphics, sub 30 fps and super low res loads on the PS2 that look like cr8p , but you carry on with the Saturn and btw no the Saturn version of Wipeout isn't superior at all don't know where you got that from
    PS3 leading in multi ports? Since when? X-Box 360 always came out on top over the PS3 in every multi port I've played and most of the time when reading about other ports. But one thing I noticed when reading about other ports falling behind on PS3, websites like Eurogamers Face Off always seriously soften the blow to PS3 way too often. Which makes sense since they're a major publication and still have to deal with Sony and worrying about upsetting Sony fanboys too much. Thus are forced to act more professionally. But make no mistake, plenty of times where 360 crushes the PS3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thief View Post
    PS3 leading in multi ports? Since when? X-Box 360 always came out on top over the PS3 in every multi port I've played and most of the time when reading about other ports.
    Since when did I make out that PS3 ports were superior? Take the time to read, wipe the SONY hate drool away and see that I said the issues of bad PS3 ports started to die down when the PS3 became the lead platform for 3rd party games like Vanquish and Paradise City.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Andromeda View Post
    So Childish . I do find it rather funny how Vic can get called out for being a liar (despite no one giving a valid reason for PS4 price) and yet Tom Kalinske can get away with bare face lies, spin.
    TRIGGERED.

    I made an observation. No one said anything about Kalinske "getting away" with anything. The only thing that's childish is how you go off on a tangent every time the man's name is even mentioned. I do believe most people here have called out both sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Andromeda View Post
    Since when did I make out that PS3 ports were superior? Take the time to read, wipe the SONY hate drool away and see that I said the issues of bad PS3 ports started to die down when the PS3 became the lead platform for 3rd party games like Vanquish and Paradise City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melf View Post
    TRIGGERED.
    I do believe most people here have called out both sides.
    Whatever . You care to explaine why PS 4 cost so much , maybe VIC got a point . No other 24 Meg Mega Drive Japanese game cost anywhere near as much as PS4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Andromeda View Post
    Since when did I make out that PS3 ports were superior? Take the time to read, wipe the SONY hate drool away and see that I said the issues of bad PS3 ports started to die down when the PS3 became the lead platform for 3rd party games like Vanquish and Paradise City.
    Quote Originally Posted by Team Andromeda View Post
    Whatever . You care to explaine why PS 4 cost so much , maybe VIC got a point . No other 24 Meg Mega Drive Japanese game cost anywhere near as much as PS4
    Multiple people have posted in this thread that other games at the time retailed for the same price or more and that the only justification for many was simply that they are JRPGs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Tiger View Post
    Multiple people have posted in this thread that other games at the time retailed for the same price or more and that the only justification for many was simply that they are JRPGs.
    What Mega Drive RPG's cost $100 . I can't think of any myself (that's not to say there wasn't at least 1)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Andromeda View Post
    Psygnosis had their own licences SONY's was separate.
    Sony would end up buying Psygnosis by the generation transition though so they'd inherit anything Psygnosis had as well.

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    On the very slim chance he's telling the truth, charging $100 for a game so you can say it failed later on would definitely make sense when it comes to why Sega stopped producing consoles after 2001.

    Sega made some terrific games in their time but as a company they are real fucking dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Andromeda View Post
    What Mega Drive RPG's cost $100 . I can't think of any myself (that's not to say there wasn't at least 1)
    Virtua Racing at an MSRP of 99.99,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Shocker View Post
    Virtua Racing at an MSRP of 99.99,
    jesus, did it really launch at that?! my neighbor got a copy around christmas or so, i had no idea. game was so impressive at the time!


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    Virtua Racing also had a coprocessor in it. Kind of sucks it was a rather straight port of the arcade though (it's hard to justify paying $100 for a racing game that has just three tracks and one car type).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Shocker View Post
    Virtua Racing at an MSRP of 99.99,
    Please ! . VR had the SVP it isn't a RPG and thanks to the SVP chip it was reflected in its insane price for the game in Japan, UK and USA that simply wasn't the case for PS4 which only cost a ridiculous amount inthe USA.
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