Pier Solar: Official Thread

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The DC cannot emulate the Genesis sound very well judging by what I've seen in the past. In fact, it's beyond pathetic, it's downright embarrassing.

No one's talked about emulation. We said port.
Quite different stuff.

The Dreamcast is not powerful enough for Pier Solar.

Please tell me you're kidding.







Ok, maybe you're not. So let's think of Sonic Jam. It's a Saturn port of 4 Mega Drive games (port, not emulation, as the games featured some tweaks, saves and difficulty levels), and they play like a dream. After Sonic Jam, saying the Dreamcast is "not powerful enough" for Pier Solar sounds like a joke to me.

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You could store the FM as .OGG or CDDA. Same for the PCM.

[Joe Redifer]

A port would require excessive rework and reprogramming. Dreamcast is not powerful enough to properly emulate the Genesis. It's Sega's worst system (not technically, but in every other way it sure is, especially that shitty controller which is an embarrassment to the very idea of videogaming).

But anyway, it's not going to the Dreamcast, but feel free to keep dreaming!

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A port would require excessive rework and reprogramming.

Oh, not really, as far as I know (because of how the game was programmed). Besides, it's not a discarded possibility according to WM.

Dreamcast is not powerful enough to properly emulate the Genesis.

Again, no one's talked about emulation.

It's Sega's worst system (not technically, but in every other way it sure is, especially that shitty controller which is an embarrassment to the very idea of videogaming).

Coulnd't disagree more.

it's not going to the Dreamcast

Because you say so or because you're a future-teller?

[N.Saibot]

I don't get why it should go to the Dreamcast anyway. It's reprogramming work, it is a small
market, so why? If it's an original homebrew for the Dreamcast then it all makes sense, but
Pier Solar? Why not port it to SMS, 32X and Saturn as well?

Personally, I'd release Pier Solar as downloadable for as many modern consoles as I
could and also for the PC. Only need emulation there, no reprogramming. And with enough
effort (storing everything as compressed digital audio, no synth emulation) a very truthful
reproduction of the sound can be made, so everyone will see how good the soundchip of
Mega Drive really is

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I don't get why it should go to the Dreamcast anyway.

Well you kinda answered your own question:

Personally, I'd release Pier Solar as downloadable for as many modern consoles as I could and also for the PC.

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Dreamcast is not powerful enough to properly emulate the Genesis.

Well, it can emulate Neo Geo CD and PlayStation perfectly so it should be capable of emulating the Genesis. And I know that Genesis emulation is still being worked on.

that shitty controller which is an embarrassment to the very idea of videogaming

It's not that bad. I really think the d-pad is rather solid after it's been played for a while. All in all I'd say that it's Sega's second best controller after the MD/G 6-Button controller / original Japanese Saturn controller.

[Bramsworth]

Only the DC is over ten years old, so it's kinda going past what can be considered modern =p

It would be nice if they made more runs of this game eventually. I mean, all these years of work, all this waiting, and only releasing it once? Seems like a waste of effort if only the select few are getting it at a one time opportunity. Of course, there's the chance it still will go elsewhere, but as a Genesis cartridge, which is what its original aim is, it really does feel like they're cheating themselves by not distributing their hard work more than just one run.

Let's see a second run someday! :P Plus they do deserve to make a profit eventually haha.

[Barone]

Pier Solar is listed as an upcoming title for Zeebo.

[Bramsworth]

Pier Solar is listed as an upcoming title for Zeebo.

Source? All I find on google is one post on a Portuguese forum of dubious nature, considering it's showing Tulio claiming a bunch of stuff as though it's fact even though none of it has been confirmed to actually be happening.

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Really ? - All I found was this: http://forum.zeeboclub.com/zeebo-ger...olar-t4096.htm

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Well, personally I think that's good news. These guys really deserve to make some money after years of hard work so even though I'll never even see a Zeebo in my country, it's great that they consider as many ways of distribution as possible.

[Barone]

http://jogos.uol.com.br/xbox360/ultn...4101u2304.jhtm

http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeebo

I know that wikipedia is shit, but AFAIK, the TecToy/Zeebo staff themselves constantly update the Zeebo page on wiki... So... Titles previously canceled were removed by them very fast, so I don't think they would let it there for nothing... Pier Solar will have a 100% PT-BR version, and that is a huge appeal for the new game-starving Zeebo console. TecToy shall be crawling right now for an "OK!" from Túlio.

Zeebo had it's priced dropped to 299,00 Reais (~ 180,00 US$) recently. New games has been released to the plataform here in Brazil, and it seems that the sales are going stronger now... Pier Solar is THE subject on many game forums here, mainly after the information that a Brazilian guy is leading the project (?). TecToy knows that a Pier Solar conversion for Zeebo could be a great step up for sales... They've always got every chance on SMS and Mega Drive days for rise on sales based on momentary facts; I really don't think that they will miss that now.
And, well, any Mega Drive supporter in Brazil is a TecToy supporter too, so I'd bet 1 dollar on it.

[Phantar]

http://jogos.uol.com.br/xbox360/ultn...4101u2304.jhtm

http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeebo

I know that wikipedia is shit, but AFAIK, the TecToy/Zeebo staff themselves constantly update the Zeebo page on wiki... So... Titles previously canceled were removed by them very fast, so I don't think they would let it there for nothing... Pier Solar will have a 100% PT-BR version, and that is a huge appeal for the new game-starving Zeebo console. TecToy shall be crawling right now for an "OK!" from Túlio.

All I can draw from the above article is that Watermelon Team is considering the idea of making the game available as downloadable title on multiple platforms. For most gamers that would mean XBOX360 and PSN. It technically could include the Zeebo as well, seeing as this is Zeebos main distribution method. Doesn't seem very likely to me, but given that the website is brasilian in origin, the author put emphasis on that option anyway. I wouldn't state this as "credible source", though.

[Barone]

All I can draw from the above article is that Watermelon Team is considering the idea of making the game available as downloadable title on multiple platforms. For most gamers that would mean XBOX360 and PSN. It technically could include the Zeebo as well, seeing as this is Zeebos main distribution method. Doesn't seem very likely to me, but given that the website is brasilian in origin, the author put emphasis on that option anyway. I wouldn't state this as "credible source", though.

As long as we are talking about a fan-made game with no release date, an awkward very unknown platform like Zeebo, and a non-common sense enterprise like TecToy... Well, I think that the game site of our most successful content provider is credible enough. The guys from that site are stupid and moron-idiots IMO, but they are very close to the TecToy's staff.

PS:Anyone can see how f*** stupid they are in things like these:
A "special" review about MK series:
http://forum.jogos.uol.com.br/UOL-Jo...ombat_t_949915
Among other bullshits, one of these morons says that MK II had no blood on Genesis... Says that MKII included in the Shaolin Monks is a *perfect* arcade version, and so on...

A "challenge" with Tommy Tallarico - the soundtracks were visibly chosen by a SNES moron-fanboy or something like that:
http://mais.uol.com.br/view/3mk9h843...983C6?types=A&

[Zebbe]

I don't get why so many people want it ported to the DC, when they usually already have the game pre-ordered for Mega Drive anyway.