Pier Solar: Official Thread

[cleeg]

Still not come yet, neither has Road Rash CD that I ordered 4 months since, getting a little nervous now...

[Jesse813]

i ordered the first day preorders were being taken

[108 Stars]

Well, I NEVER ordered but got multiple copies a week ago! :P

[cleeg]

i ordered the first day preorders were being taken

Me too pretty much.

[Joe Redifer]

As far as the CD issue is concerned, I think it would have been more reliable to have real redbook audio rather than streaming PCM. I seriously doubt we'd be hearing much in the way of skipping issues EVER. Many Sega/Mega CD systems play regular CD games fine but not Pier Solar. Nothing wrong with their CD-DA soundtracks. I think that likely Watermelon had some bad pressings. I don't think the CD itself is up to snuff. I don't know where it was pressed, but likely not in the USA or Japan. The fact that a CD-R will work better than a pressed disc means they had a bad pressing. This really can't be argued since CD readers generally have a more difficult time reading a CD-R (even a slowly burnt one) than a properly pressed disc. It's simple physics. Watermelon just doesn't want to admit it. Yes, a CD unit which is in absolutely perfect alignment will likely have no issues. But even a hair off and those pressing imperfections start to show. Hell, it could have even been a bad master or bad authoring of the CD itself (which would require lots of seeking from the laser instead of one streaming linear-streaming file). But then that doesn't explain why CD-Rs would work better. Yeah, bad pressing.

[Phosis]

Do not complain, people waited for years and many were unsure if the game will
eventually come out - some dudes actually canceled their pre-orders to get the money
back. I hope they aren't regretting it now.

Oh really? Do you think I am not aware of this controversy, especially since I have commented on it many times myself?

What a blatantly antagonistic post, of all the things in this thread you could have replied too.

[108 Stars]

Really, it is a good press. We had experiences with bad press too, but those discs were not taken. The ones used are fine.

It probably really has to do with the manufacturing process of pressed CD-ROMs nowadays as opposed to the 1990ies. If the CD was bad this would definately have been found out.

It´s true that usually CD-Rs are hader to read for drives, but the old age of the Mega-CD makes a difference. Believe me, Fonzie is one hell of a perfectionist, and had the CD had any flaws he would not have taken them.
These are perfectly proofessional pressed CDs, but there are many factors such as materials used and the manufacturing process used today that may not correspond well with old disc drives.

The problem with Red Book is that for one the tracks would all play to the end and restart, and not run in an endless loop I believe.
And more important: They would not fit on the disc. It should be over 50 tracks I believe.

BTW, I think Good Deal Games or whoever it was that manufactred new Sega-CD games in the mid 2000s switched to CD-Rs for that very same reason. Anyway, with so many Mega-CDs not being in best shape anymore I think it is even more understandable why we recommend burning your own Disc instead of packing in a pressed one with the reprint.

[synbiosfan]

I don't think anyone here has a CD burner capable of doing the job at that speed. In fact, I've never seen PC hardware capable of burning at 1x. o_o

Clone cd does it.

[Guntz]

The CD drive has to be capable of burning at a slow speed too, not just with software.

With that said, I've had CD-Rs burned at 16x work perfectly on my Sega CD 2. I always use Imgburn.

[Fonzie]

There is at least one true fact: People complaining or making a big deal about the disc are mostly people who didn't buy or didn't receive their games yet


Also, if it helps, we pressed the disc a few times to ensure we were not screwing anything. You're not going to have better manufacturing.

Last point is that I never had any skipping on my test machines and we used the most picky machines from our betatesters to validate the final disc and i did complete the game on them without trouble.

Indeed using red disc would have been perfect but the soundtrack is 2 hours long and its about removing content for people who have decaying disc drives. After removing and removing stuff to "please the mass and get safe from complains" you end up with no disc, and that's what reprint is.

So stop weening about the disc please. Especially if you didn't get the game yet.
Thanks.

[N.Saibot]

Well, I NEVER ordered but got multiple copies a week ago! :P

Well, you're the Kaiser, Watermelon just didn't want to spoil their relationship to the
German royalty.

[Eric83]

New day same story. I checked the mail and still no Pier Solar here in PA.

Anyone get it in the mail today?

[Joe Redifer]

Can anyone in the US who has received it confirm if the package must be signed for? (Didn't show up for me today, either).

Maybe Fonzie can look at the tracking numbers of the US-bound shipments and let us know if they are indeed on US soil yet.

[InternalPrimate]

In California, and it's not here today.

[snotmaw]

I'd also like to know if it has to be signed for, as i'll be in oregon (out of state) for a week and won't be able to sign if it arrives.
has anyone on the west coast received a copy?