Pier Solar: Official Thread

[Devil N]

Dude, not cool.

[Knuckle Duster]

My sarcasm knows no limit when money & disappointment are dance partners.

The "Epic Jawesome-sauce" that is the irony of the Developmental Shark-Jumping & The Lead Programmers name; is just too easy to ignore.

[Jimmy Yakapucci]

My take is this:

Taking full payment for a pre-order then commenting about not being able to refund all money (due to paypal fees?!) sounds like those of us who preordered have become investors in the development of the game. I never understood why a smaller deposit could not have been made instead of the full amount. Yes, it would be more trouble to follow up and collect from those who still wish to buy it whenever it is completed. Of course, full payment for the custom version.

JY

[Smii]

sounds like those of us who preordered have become investors in the development of the game.

In that case, where's my Pier Solar clicky-pen? Paperweight? Letter opener?? I wasn't angry about the delays, but I suretainly are irked now

[Knuckle Duster]

My take is this:

Taking full payment for a pre-order then commenting about not being able to refund all money (due to paypal fees?!) sounds like those of us who preordered have become investors in the development of the game. I never understood why a smaller deposit could not have been made instead of the full amount. Yes, it would be more trouble to follow up and collect from those who still wish to buy it whenever it is completed. Of course, full payment for the custom version.

JY

In that case, where's my Pier Solar clicky-pen? Paperweight? Letter opener?? I wasn't angry about the delays, but I suretainly are irked now

Come on now, Zebbe is being misquoted & it's being blown out of proportion. He's swedish! He doesn't know what investments even mean!

On that note:
I demand a Pier Solar Car Air-Freshener that smells like success and tastes like ketchup.

[N.Saibot]

I have to think about the Ozzy Osbourne sitcom when someone is speaking about the "smell of success". Disgusting :-D

[websurfer]

My take is this:

Taking full payment for a pre-order then commenting about not being able to refund all money (due to paypal fees?!)

JY

I don't use PayPal that often but I think this is correct, if I'm wrong someone correct me.

PayPal I think takes close to 3% for domestic payments or closer to 4% for international payments. So $35 after PayPal fees, WM would get just over $33.

PayPal only allows to give a full refund without any additional PayPal fees for 60 days. So after that period *I think* PayPal would take an additional 3% to 4% to send the refund.

Those few dollars per refund will probably add up to a huge amount if everyone requests a refund. So obviously WM is hoping not many request a refund.

Accepting pre-orders through PayPal when the game wouldn't ship within PayPal's 60 day refund policy is probably the dumbest mistake they've made.

[Zebbe]

When the "mediocre at best" "vaporware" (which was preorderable since "2005") is "cancelled", perhaps we will explain all of our "dumb mistakes" we've made during the development and all the "haters" and "supporters" will see.

[Knuckle Duster]

I don't use PayPal that often but I think this is correct, if I'm wrong someone correct me.

PayPal I think takes close to 3% for domestic payments or closer to 4% for international payments. So $35 after PayPal fees, WM would get just over $33.

PayPal only allows to give a full refund without any additional PayPal fees for 60 days. So after that period *I think* PayPal would take an additional 3% to 4% to send the refund.

Those few dollars per refund will probably add up to a huge amount if everyone requests a refund. So obviously WM is hoping not many request a refund.

Accepting pre-orders through PayPal when the game wouldn't ship within PayPal's 60 day refund policy is probably the dumbest mistake they've made.

Paypals got asses covered on both sides.
If it came down to full refunding. Paypal would handle the loss and stick it to them in a self-serving manner which benefits them.
It would suck, yes. But it would be manageable.

If you didn't have paypal, all it would take is 1 customer not getting refunded to fall to chargebacks, or even deeper shit: report FTC offenses which can drop massive fines on a merchant's doorstep.

When the "mediocre at best" "vaporware" (which was preorderable since "2005") is "cancelled", perhaps we will explain all of our "dumb mistakes" we've made during the development and all the "haters" and "supporters" will see.

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[Knuckle Duster]

NEWS FLASH!

Zebbe last seen doing this:


"Haters" & "Supporters" officially put on notice.

[jerry coeurl]

Accepting pre-orders through PayPal when the game wouldn't ship within PayPal's 60 day refund policy is probably the dumbest mistake they've made.

Yah, they really shot themselves in the foot there.

[Knuckle Duster]

Battle Cat is going to eat you first, Jerry.

[nathanallan]

I patiently wait. I also pre-ordered and understand how easy it is to release a bad game and disappoint a lot of people.

Zebbe, a little merchandising in the meantime wouldn't hurt. Hype it up, get more funding, all kinds of neat stuff.

I patiently wait. I paid, now I wait.

[jerry coeurl]

Battle Cat is going to eat you first, Jerry.

Heh, I loved Battle Cat. I used to have a "lights and sounds" He-Man sword when I was six. That thing was awesome.

[havok666]

Looks like I better pick up Legend of Wukong.