Genesis Rpgs

[j_factor]

Richard Garriott created Ultima. He is from Britain.

Richard Garriott was born in Britain, but he lived in the US. Ultima and its sequels were developed entirely in the United States. Origin was based in Texas.

[Joe Redifer]

Where was Ultima 4 for the Sega Master System developed? That game runs at warp speed on my NTSC SMS and I figured it was due to being developed for PAL consoles.

[j_factor]

I'm not sure who did that port. Sega (of Europe) might have done it in-house, as it was published by them.

[Jules Walter]

I think in your attmept to take the piss out of the stretching of a genre you got a little bit muddled up..... Calling a Rts game with no character period, no fantasy no anything relating to an Rpg is not quite like calling Soleil, light crusader and Landstalker Rpgs....

These games are all based in a fantasy world, revolve around characters, the main protagonist starts off weak, gets stronger and develops more attacks as the game goes on.. There are dungeons and world maps in some, like traditional rpgs money is a factor and a medium of exchange, there is some terrible evil that has consequences affecting the world.. they take sizeable amounts of time...

The only difference between these games and so-called traditional rpgs, is that the battling takes place outside the realm of options and you can move the character yourself, that and the fact that your party is generally restricted to one...

Now thats not an incredible stretching I think you'd agree, I myself feel that the title of action RPgs, fits in perfectly as a sub-genre and have no qualms with it...

Red alert now, well thats a real time strategy isn't it?

True, though a fantasy setting really isn't an RPG element (you can have a sci-fi RPG just as much as you can have a fantasy beat 'em all), and I should add, they also have towns. Interaction with a large amount of NPCs is definitely another element that has been introduced to gaming via RPGs.

Also huh, get Phantasy Star IV, unless you're not worthy enough. I like most titles on the list though.

[megabomberman]

Thanks guys I think it is pretty unanimous Phantasy star 4 is the way to go, but I think I'll take Zebbes advice and go and play the first one before moving onto the others, should be a great experience then...

[Zebbe]

I usually do the same with dinner: save the best for last.

[Demonic Weasel]

True, though a fantasy setting really isn't an RPG element (you can have a sci-fi RPG just as much as you can have a fantasy beat 'em all), and I should add, they also have towns. Interaction with a large amount of NPCs is definitely another element that has been introduced to gaming via RPGs.

Also huh, get Phantasy Star IV, unless you're not worthy enough. I like most titles on the list though.

Random NPC's in towns that in no way advance the gameplay or plot should not be considered a pre-requsite of RPG's. They should be considered an unfortunate blight, or some such. I agree that actual characters are important, however.

[Jules Walter]

Random NPC's in towns that in no way advance the gameplay or plot should not be considered a pre-requsite of RPG's. They should be considered an unfortunate blight, or some such. I agree that actual characters are important, however.

That's not really the point. Console RPGs have always featured them. They're a legitimate RPG element.
Personally, I've always enjoyed getting to a new town and talking to everybody. Of course it's better when the random NPCs have a bit of personality themselves-it makes the game's world feel more alive and usually makes me care more. But a RPG without some sort of towns just doesn't feel right for me, which is one of the reasons I don't play many strategy-RPGs. Just battles with story scenes in between doesn't do it for me, I need some exploration. Shining Force is great for that.

[tomaitheous]

I picked PS series.

PSII kicks much ass and has really good music. PSIII while a decent game, pales in comparison to PSII or PSIV. I beat PSIII when it came out, but I could have really skipped over it without regret. It just didn't have the frills the other two have. The music was nice in some parts though, but not memorable. While I've only played about 1/3 of PSIV (starting over multiples ... urgh!) - it definitely has the feel of PSII and improves upon it. While I haven't beat it, I'd say it's still the best RPG on the console.

I'm not really a fan of strategy games, but the Shining Force series was really fun.

[Parker619]

i picked the phantasy star series mainly because

its a strong series still going strong today and its cool

[username]

I picked Phantasy Star, because back when the Megadrive was big it was the only one of these games that I ever got to play. Hell, I've only now discovered Shining Force, oh the shame...

Does anyone else think a 2D PSO-esque hack-and-slash entry in the Phantasy Star series would be cool, or is it just me?

[Baleog]

PSIII while a decent game, pales in comparison to PSII or PSIV. I beat PSIII when it came out, but I could have really skipped over it without regret. It just didn't have the frills the other two have.

The battle animation is a bit stiff—and the music is...well, I’ll get to that!—other than that I found it somewhat enjoyable. It’s not a transcendent roleplaying experience (I’m a bit spoiled, my first Sega RP experience was Eye of the Beholder for the Sega CD), but it is fun, and I do like that there are multiple different storylines you can produce. I found that clever.

The music was nice in some parts though, but not memorable.

For me, there was exactly one enjoyable tune: the Wren transformation music. I’d often just have him flying around just so I could listen to that tune, and not the dreary electronic grunts and squeaks that made up the rest of the soundtrack. UGH! Each battle ends with this stinger music featuring the WORST electronic simulation of a harpsichord you’ve EVER HEARD! And the “preparing for battle” vamp sounds EXACTLY like the Hypno-Toad from Futurama! I sincerely hope the other two PS games have better music than this!

[B - Mark]

In my opinion the best RPGs in the poll:
- Phantasy Star II, III and IV
- Shinning Force
- Landstalker
- Crusader of Centy
- Beyond Oasis

There are my fav games and i recommend.

[Genesis Knight]

I'm surprised Phantasy Star blew away Shining Force so much in this poll.

[Joe Redifer]

Shining Force isn't really an RPG. It has RPG elements at best.