SNES Classic

[MrMatthews]

MrMatthews, by your logic you also hate distributors and stores because they do the exact same thing that resellers do: Act as middlemen for a product.

That is not the same thing at all. Distributors and retailers are fulfilling their specific job by buying product from manufacturers and "reselling" it to consumers, and in most cases the profit they get on each individual item is practically negligible... AND in most cases, buying from retailers/distributors is the only way to get goods of any kind. You can't drive to Sony's disc manufacturing plant and purchase the new God of War game, and I imagine you'd be greeted by only blank stares if you tried to purchase a dozen eggs from a chicken ranch set up for mass production.

If Toys R Us sent their employees to snatch up all available units from competing stores like WalMart, Target, & Best Buy and then sold them for $170 apiece, then that would be the same. You'd be okay with that, I suppose?

[Thief]

I've worked some 90 hour weeks and had just enough time to eat, shower and go to bed. It was exhausting.

Had two jobs once for a month. Basically work had to walk in to kick my ass out of bed.

[gamevet]

That is not the same thing at all. Distributors and retailers are fulfilling their specific job by buying product from manufacturers and "reselling" it to consumers, and in most cases the profit they get on each individual item is practically negligible... AND in most cases, buying from retailers/distributors is the only way to get goods of any kind. You can't drive to Sony's disc manufacturing plant and purchase the new God of War game, and I imagine you'd be greeted by only blank stares if you tried to purchase a dozen eggs from a chicken ranch set up for mass production.

If Toys R Us sent their employees to snatch up all available units from competing stores like WalMart, Target, & Best Buy and then sold them for $170 apiece, then that would be the same. You'd be okay with that, I suppose?

Think Geek did that earlier this year. They sat on a pile of NES Classics and then used those units to bundle with cheap crap they couldn't sell by itself. I also saw Fry's raise the price on the unit to $75.

[Sik]

and I imagine you'd be greeted by only blank stares if you tried to purchase a dozen eggs from a chicken ranch set up for mass production.

Er, bad example since it's not that uncommon (although they prefer to sell in groups of 30 eggs rather than 6, still convenient if you eat eggs often though since it's cheaper).

[avlon]

We're too busy yelling at scalpers.

I don't think that's the reason. One is selling barebone clones with minimal quality control and customer service, and the other is selling two full-featured professional products with guaranteed customer service behind them.

It's like comparing a bootleg cam-video DVD from the local neighborhood hustler to an official Blu-ray release from Best Buy in a lot of cases.

[chilled]

It's like comparing a bootleg cam-video DVD from the local neighborhood hustler to an official Blu-ray release from Best Buy in a lot of cases.

Yes but this bluray is just an upscaled SD source...
Fuck it I'm getting a translucent cased Raspberry Pi 3B (oh and apparently you can even do up to 16-bit emulation with a Pi Zero...)

[Thief]

Excellent video, just finished watching. So Star Fox 2 runs at 10fps with enough dips below, but didn't show a frame counter for Star Fox 1. Anyone know which has the better frame rate?

Also, can these SNES mini controllers be hooked up to pc (is, there a USB connector or adapted for it?).

[avlon]

Yes but this bluray is just an upscaled SD source...
Fuck it I'm getting a translucent cased Raspberry Pi 3B (oh and apparently you can even do up to 16-bit emulation with a Pi Zero...)

I'll take an official low res source upscaled over a low quality shaky cam bootleg 3rd party source without any type of warranty.

I've been curious about messing with a Pi. I just don't have a real reason since I own both a Nexus player and a Sony Android TV.

[MrMatthews]

Distributors strike deals with big businesses on large shipments all of the time. How do you think Target or Toys R Us pays their employees?

Everything that you buy from a store that's not a home grown farm, the manufacturer's website, or some other kind of homemade business has a middle man of some kind. Nintendo doesn't make these things by hand, nor do they drive each SNES classic to each individual store. They hire people to do those things. They contract a production line to make say, 500,000 units at $15 apiece. Then they pay a distributor to ship them to stores, who then sell them. Everyone gets a piece...otherwise you would be growing your own food and eating it.

Really? You're trying to educate me on how commerce works? I'm not exactly insulted, but it's odd that you seem to think that I believe Nintendo makes these things for $79.99 apiece and then gives them to retailers so they can sell them to consumers at cost. That's not only a stupid assumption on your part, it's not even what I'm talking about.

But what do you say to the small video game store owner who does trade-ins and pays people 25-50% of the value and resells it? Or what if he went to the flea market, bought some games, and sold them in his store?

Um... what? Again, that's not even close to related to what I'm talking about. I'm not sure if you're just not paying attention or if you are just blindly typing stuff to give the impression that you're keeping up with the conversation. But since you seem to think it's relevant, why don't you call Luna Games and ask Ian how much he's selling the SNES Classic for ... when he gets it in stock. By your logic, prices of the SNES Classic should be all over the map, depending on what store you go to. Why would these retailers continue to sell it for $79.99 when they know they could charge more?

I am not talking about people who are buying cheap and then selling with a 10% to 20% profit margin. I'm not talking about buying Contra for $2 at a flea market and then selling it on ebay for $60 (or however much the going rate is these days).

I'm talking about a group of people who are basically intercepting every unit they can get their hands on, specifically with the intention of monopolizing the market and dictating their own price.

I underlined that because I don't think I can state that any clearer.

And before anyone says this (and I know it's going to come up sooner or later), I know it's not illegal. It's just a dick move.

[Thief]

Why would anyone want to use a Dual Shock 4 for SNES mini. The D-Pad is pretty bad on it, not to mention extra input lag since this is for wireless only.

Spoiler Alert; It doesn't work, needs upcoming firmware update to make it work on SNES mini (current firmware only allows NES mini).

[avlon]

Haven't watched the video, but it does work. I just tested it.

Unfortunately, the face buttons are mapped incorrectly. If the game supports remapping, folks can play just fine.

[Thief]

Haven't watched the video, but it does work. I just tested it.

Unfortunately, the face buttons are mapped incorrectly. If the game supports remapping, folks can play just fine.

Well when you watch the video you find it works for him too, but only two face buttons work because the firmware is only for NES mini. SNES mini firmware update is on the way (could be out now for all I know).

[avlon]

Well when you watch the video you find it works for him too, but only two face buttons work because the firmware is only for NES mini. SNES mini firmware update is on the way (could be out now for all I know).

The update was released yesterday. He's using the older (1.06 if memory serves correctly) firmware. I streamed the updated firmware on instagram last night with an 8bitdo SNES30 + SNES classic with all buttons working.

[xelement5x]

That's an interesting statement considering the thrift store item is likely going to be rarer and harder to find.

The only one to blame is Nintendo for shorting the supply of a high demand item. The NES and SNES Classic flippers don't bother me much since there are easier and better alternatives to what you're getting here. This is a mass produced consumer product, not a once in a lifetime event. If Brickseek indicated any store nearby had some, I'd definitely pick one up to sell.

Mr. Matthew's summarized what I we feeling very well:

I am not talking about people who are buying cheap and then selling with a 10% to 20% profit margin. I'm not talking about buying Contra for $2 at a flea market and then selling it on ebay for $60 (or however much the going rate is these days).

I'm talking about a group of people who are basically intercepting every unit they can get their hands on, specifically with the intention of monopolizing the market and dictating their own price.

Regarding the thrift thing, I don't mind (as much) people who get those and resell them because it's at least getting new stock into the rest of the marketplace. If flippers didn't buy them and no one else did, the games would eventually just be destroyed by the store. If a gamer gets them and keeps them and plays them, that is even more awesome, but it's not always going to happen so I'd rather they at least be saved in the long term by someone reselling them.

[KnightWarrior]

Have anyone got the SNES Wireless Fighting Commander Controller for the Wii or the SNES Classic?

I'm going to get one before more get flooded on ebay