SNES Classic

[QuickSciFi]

No. Not me. But I have been eyeing that Hori controller wireless pad. It looks sick.

[turboswimbz]

I am also interested if anyone has used one. want to hear about it before I pick it up.

[Gryson]

I can't speak for the SNES Fighting Commander, but I own several Hori gamepads and I think they are the absolute best. Amazing quality.

I use the new Hori Fighting Commander for PC emulation gaming: https://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Comm.../dp/B01GVOFIAA

It has a wonderful d-pad, but most importantly, it has 6 face buttons!

[QuickSciFi]

Thanks Gryson. I may just check it out.

[QuickSciFi]

Easy is a positive for me. Now I want to play it more.

[gamevet]

My thoughts are that the beta that I've played through emulation isn't much different than the game that was put on the SNES Classic. Did you ever play the leaked beta that was available through the internet Baloo?

[Metalwario64]

Anyone play through Star Fox 2? I played through it yesterday and beat it in half an hour...game is still way too short and way too easy on the normal setting. I simply swapped out my pilot once and Corneria took 26% damage. It's a fun game, and runs a bit more smoothly than the first game did. But this doesn't seem any different from the beta to me. Final Boss is still a complete joke. And the game is just so easy.

It seems everyone is just playing it on "normal" (which the design documents showed was originally to be called easy... They should have left that alone as it's basically a tutorial mode), and then they declare it too short and easy.

You should really try it on hard, which is longer and more difficult, which is where the RTS elements really begin to shine, and the harder the difficulty, the more phases the Andross fight has. Also, this version removed the homing ability (but it's unlocked by collecting all of the large coins), and that makes the fights much more difficult in the harder difficulties, especially against the Wolf Team, since they reflect most of your shots, and you have to have good aim. Just switching your pilots won't be much help, because chances are they'll both take heavy damage at some point, which will require a return trip to your mothership to recover, which puts Corneria at risk.

Then you should try playing hard, and then trying to beat it without Corneria taking any damage, and then you will unlock Expert mode, which is the most exciting mode because Corneria is constantly under attack, and Andross keeps sending out viruses to Corneria's defense canon, which turns it on the planet, so you have to really think about your strategies in that mode. Also, the order of the planets under attack is always randomized, so each playthrough will require different strategies.

My thoughts are that the beta that I've played through emulation isn't much different than the game that was put on the SNES Classic. Did you ever play the leaked beta that was available through the internet Baloo?

It was never going to be "much" different, because Cuthbert basically said a few mechanics and a lot of polish were what was missing from the late prototype ROM. The final version has better A.I, and it's much harder on the harder difficulty settings, especially because of the removed lock-on. The Pepper Coins were finally implemented, and all of the debug stuff was removed. There's also a new score tally at the end of the game that wasn't in the proto.

[Thief]

Metalwario64 really knows his Star Fox, I'm really impressed. Me, not really, still need to start playing this series and looking forward to it. But can I ask for your wise and powerful thoughts on Star Fox 64 in comparison to two SNES versions?

[Metalwario64]

Metalwario64 really knows his Star Fox, I'm really impressed. Me, not really, still need to start playing this series and looking forward to it. But can I ask for your wise and powerful thoughts on Star Fox 64 in comparison to two SNES versions?

I'm no authoritative figure. Anyway, I think Star Fox 64 is a good game, but I don't think it's the be-all end-all of the franchise like most people seem to (Zero was highly derivative of it, despite being a "reboot" of the franchise", complete with forced "cheesy" voice acting because it's what the fans want), and I'm not a fan of the dark atmosphere or the attempt at a cinematic score. I prefer the brighter, more upbeat SNES games atmospheres, along with their extremely memorable and catchy soundtracks (64 only has 3 or so tracks I can remember off the top of my head).

Now, in terms of gameplay, 64 is the most "playable" in terms of having a smooth framerate, and the on-rails gameplay has more variety than the original SNES game, with more mechanics and alternate paths. It's a very fun game, but I like the straightforward, simple challenge of the original game a lot as well (it's way more difficult than 64), and I prefer the aesthetics. I actually think the triangular ships and pixel art backgrounds are a bit more appealing than the low poly blurry-textured look of the N64 game, and I think those simplistic visuals would look cool in HD at 60fps. Cuthbert apparently made a 3D demo of a port of Star Fox SNES to the 3DS, but Nintendo rejected it in favor of the remade 64, but they really should have also released a SNES remake as a 3D Classic...

Star Fox 2 is really high up on my list, because it's the most innovative and ambitious of the franchise, and I love the mix of RTS, shooter, Roguelike, and dungeon crawling gameplay elements that comprise the game. It gets really frantic when Andross launches every planet's missiles at once, which means you must make fast decisions on which threat to handle first. It also has an early attempt at the 3D collect-a-thon that Super Mario 64 and the Banjo series ended up doing with the hidden Pepper Coins in each level. It also has excellent, catchy music which rivals the first game, and surpasses the 64 version.

Of course, in this day and age people like to mock the simplistic polygons (and I actually think it looks cool, and since these are all mechanical ships, I think it's better than early attempt at extremely low poly humanoid characters) and low framerate. If you aren't a stickler for authenticity, some emulators offer the ability to overclock the Super FX chip, making the Star Fox games run much faster and smoother (but in the case of Star Fox 1, there's no speed cap so the game sometimes gets too fast, making it very challenging, which I actually enjoy that way as well because it makes it a tad more along the lines of something like Afterburner), but Star Fox 2 is locked at 20fps, which makes an overclocked game much more consistent and playable.

In the end, I think I prefer the SNES games, mostly because their style and music are more up my alley, but I think 64 is still a very good game as well, and for those who can't stand the low-poly triangular look of the SNES games, it's more accessible. That said, in terms of fps, the SNES games can be upgraded, which is a very cool aspect of emulation (the SNES9x emulator on the Wii can overclock them, and I use that feature a lot), so that helps them in this day and age where the hardware held them back years ago.

Either way, if you're looking at getting in to the franchise, you can't go wrong with either the SNES games or the 64 game in my eyes, even if I have my own personal preference for the SNES titles.

[Da_Shocker]

494 listings on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...s=snes+classic

5875 listings on ebay
https://www.ebay.com/sch/Video-Game-...p2045573.m1684

Someone is actually selling an SNES Classic poster for the super low price of 60 dollars.

[MrMatthews]

I really hope not too many people are jumping on these $150-$300 prices. It’s the first wave, people: show a modicum of patience. I sincerely believe that there’s going to be enough to go around, this time.

[Hidden_Darkness]

I really hope not too many people are jumping on these $150-$300 prices. It’s the first wave, people: show a modicum of patience. I sincerely believe that there’s going to be enough to go around, this time.

I'm definitely holding out because those prices are ridiculous. I do hope Nintendo keeps their word and makes a abundant supply so people that actually want one to play can get one at regular retail price.

[SEGA.GENESIS1989]

I'm definitely holding out because those prices are ridiculous. I do hope Nintendo keeps their word and makes a abundant supply so people that actually want one to play can get one at regular retail price.

I wouldn't worry about getting the device. Those scalpers who bought multiple units are deservedly getting the broomstick up their a55. Earlier this week I walked into a local EB Games just to chat with the employees and lo and behold, guess who appeared but a dirty, stinking scalper trying to return not one, not two, but 5 NES classic minis! She couldn't sell them for a profit and tried to return them to the store. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!



"Well sorry missus but you cannot return any product(s) returned more than 30 days from the date of purchase!"

Outside the store, I offered the scalper $40 for of the unit knowing she would refuse. But I just wanted to wind her up and get a reaction! And she did!

She greeted me with a "f*ck you!"

And I returned the favour with smile and a pleasant "F*ck you too!"

You must be thinking that she was a millennial! Oh no! This lady had grey and white hair and must have been in her mid-50s!

Anyways, after my verbal exchange with the old hag, I walked back into the store and asked the cashier if there are alot of scalpers seeking out the SNES mini. She said yes but that their head office told them that all stores were going to be receiving multiple shipments in the coming weeks and not to worry. If your looking for a SNES mini, you'll get one. She also told me that they will begin refusing to sell the item to any known scalpers.

When I heard this, all I could think was ...

[MrMatthews]

While I was trying out OfferUp, I saw some stupid woman trying to sell one for $300.

The weird thing about OfferUp is that it uses profile pictures (I'm guessing linked in from Facebook or Instagram or what-have-you) so you actually see the person trying to sell this stuff. It was kind of nice being about to direct my scorn and disgust at a real person, as opposed to just a wall of text.

I think what really irritates me most about the scalping situation is that so many of these people don't know anything at all about video games, other than the fact that they're Big Money. This is the same kind of person who would find NES Play Action Football or (god help us) Super Mario / Duck Hunt and think they stumbled upon gold.

[Benjamin]

Yep, that's my experience as well. Ebay really ruined things once it implemented Buy It Now. Now everyone throws up their garbage with a ridiculous Buy It Now, and all it takes is one sale to make that the new price for the item. I'm always annoyed when searching for a game and absolutely nothing appears under the "Auction" tab. Then you get flippers searching for the item to get a sense of its value, seeing the Buy It Now listings, and suddenly thinking their item is worth whatever is the most.

I'm sure if the scalpers were forced to use auctions, we would have seen high prices early on, but those would flatten as demand wanes. With Buy It Now, that never happens. We're stuck with inventory being perpetually inflated far above its actual value to those who want it. The SNES Classic should be fine, but people are just going to horde those $300 NES units until Nintendo decides to put more into circulation.