Do we all agree that retro consoles quirks and limitations add flavor to nostalgia?

[Thief]

How about this for a quirk. Turning this;



Into this;



With just our then childhood imagination.

[Black_Tiger]

How about this for a quirk. Turning this;



Into this;



With just our then childhood imagination.

I was so disappointed when I confirmed that those pics weren't from a real promotional cartoon. But not nearly as disappointed as when I first saw the terrible Zelda show that actually got made.

[Leynos]

At least it finally became a reality.

[Jake Armitage]

But not nearly as disappointed as when I first saw the terrible Zelda show that actually got made.

But as an adult you had the chance to see "The Legend of Neil" - while sometimes (well often to be honest) crude, it was an often funny parody of the Zelda games.

[Orchid87]

TG16 Was mostly Hudson games and smaller lesser known stuff.

For me, PC Engine is a SHMUPS and other arcade ports system. R-Type, Ninja Spirit and a better version of Raiden are enough to make the console worth owning. Kinda sad that unless it's Sega game, or the port was reprogrammed by Sega, early arcade ports on Megadrive were usually worse than on PCE.

Edit: how could I forget about Nectaris? My favorite PCE game!

[Da_Shocker]

This is one reason that I dont give 2 fucks about current console wars. It was so fun when hardware manufactures use to make there own graphic chips rather than contract a PC company such as AMD or Nvidia. You could always tell the differences between Genesis, SNES and PCE games. They all had a very distinct flavor to them. Now days this game runs at a different frame rate or resolution is about the only difference there is today.

[sull56ivan2010]

Eh... kind of. Part of it is also the deep love affairs some have for some of the games of their eras.

[gamevet]

For me, PC Engine is a SHMUPS and other arcade ports system. R-Type, Ninja Spirit and a better version of Raiden are enough to make the console worth owning. Kinda sad that unless it's Sega game, or the port was reprogrammed by Sega, early arcade ports on Megadrive were usually worse than on PCE.

Edit: how could I forget about Nectaris? My favorite PCE game!

Galaga '90

This is one reason that I dont give 2 fucks about current console wars. It was so fun when hardware manufactures use to make there own graphic chips rather than contract a PC company such as AMD or Nvidia. You could always tell the differences between Genesis, SNES and PCE games. They all had a very distinct flavor to them. Now days this game runs at a different frame rate or resolution is about the only difference there is today.

They are nothing more than under-powered PCs. The only reason I have the PS4, is because of Sony's exclusives.

[Kamahl]

I didn't grow up with the Speccy but I've become quite fond of it over the years, despite it pretty much having the worst graphics out of anything ever that was in any way popular. (Even the Intellivision and Atari 2600 have some tradeoffs where they're better).

Seeing the clever ways homebrew developers use the hardware warms my heart. Even back in the day some devs did some pretty ingenious things.
However this also means I have 0 nostalgia (or even much appreciation) for good games that don't make interesting use of the hardware.

[Team Andromeda]

This is one reason that I dont give 2 fucks about current console wars. It was so fun when hardware manufactures use to make there own graphic chips rather than contract a PC company such as AMD or Nvidia. .

I don't agree, SEGA never used to make its own CPUs or GPUs most of the time and it never mattered to me, one could say the OG XBox was just a PC , Model 3 also using PC tech but it didn't matter when you had games like JSRF, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Gunvalkyrie or VF 3 and SR II in the Arcades. I loved the DC even its GPU is all thanks to PC tech. Also while people can complain that theres little difference between the consoles these days that is a good thing when it comes to 3rd party games and we are no longer seeing the vast differences in ports like with the Snes VS MD or Saturn VS PS. I do miss the days of games pushing a hardware to its limits though and a game only being able to be really possible on a particular piece of hardware though...

But I don't get the hate this gen gets when there are not only great games but also great exclusives for each system

[Orchid87]

This is one reason that I dont give 2 fucks about current console wars. It was so fun when hardware manufactures use to make there own graphic chips rather than contract a PC company such as AMD or Nvidia. You could always tell the differences between Genesis, SNES and PCE games. They all had a very distinct flavor to them. Now days this game runs at a different frame rate or resolution is about the only difference there is today.

Many times this. It's the reason I'm with PC master race now. I don't really care about current gen consoles that much. If there was no Bloodborne, I'd sold my PS4 already.

Galaga '90

Love it!

I don't agree, SEGA never used to make its own CPUs or GPUs most of the time and it never mattered to me, one could say the OG XBox was just a PC , Model 3 also using PC tech but it didn't matter when you had games like JSRF, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Gunvalkyrie or VF 3 and SR II in the Arcades. I loved the DC even its GPU is all thanks to PC tech. Also while people can complain that theres little difference between the consoles these days that is a good thing when it comes to 3rd party games and we are no longer seeing the vast differences in ports like with the Snes VS MD or Saturn VS PS. I do miss the days of games pushing a hardware to its limits though and a game only being able to be really possible on a particular piece of hardware though...

But I don't get the hate this gen gets when there are not only great games but also great exclusives for each system

Dreamcast and OG Xbox games didn't have the distinct look of previous console generations. As I said before - N64 is where everything started to look like PC games.

[cleeg]

I'd love to get into PC gaming if it weren't for three things...

1) Time: Too many complications in this particular rabbit hole that I just can't get into. I love tweaking, changing fine tuning and altering too much, I'd just not find the time for it all nowadays.

2) I just love consoles as objects, they just look great to me and when they are lined up in a row it makes me happy to see them. There are some iconic designs from Atari and Sony that I love. MD is best, obvs.

3) My PS3 is outdated now, but it still looks good for graphics and there are some great games; frame rates and higher definitions don't grind my gears too much so I can look past all that. GTA V looks great, I know it looks better elsewhere but it's still a fab experience here too. There can be too much of an upgrade race, it's satisfying to buy an object to use and enjoy without looking around the corner all the time, companies just want you to buy the new machine every year or two.

[Team Andromeda]

Dreamcast and OG Xbox games didn't have the distinct look of previous console generations. As I said before - N64 is where everything started to look like PC games.

Really ? I thought most N64 games looked like crap and nothing to PC games, but a lot of DC games had that 3DFX look to them and back then it was seen as a good thing to be close to the PC with Windows CE and trying to get more of the PC good games on the consoles. The SEGA Rally II port was cripppled thanks to Windows CE

[Orchid87]

Really ? I thought most N64 games looked like crap and nothing to PC games

If you ever saw first generation 1996 3dfx Voodoo graphics, you'd notice that they look like n64, except higher resolution and better textures. Dreamcast was quite a bit better. I'd say it was on par with circa 1998 Riva TNT graphics. Not in rough performance numbers, mind you, because I never tried to compare that, but in what games actually looked like. Quake 3 Arena is a good indicator. No way a 1996 PC or N64 could run it at the same image quality Dreamcast version has.

[Team Andromeda]

If you ever saw first generation 1996 3dfx Voodoo graphics, you'd notice that they look like n64, except higher resolution and better textures. Dreamcast was quite a bit better. I'd say it was on par with circa 1998 Riva TNT graphics. Not in rough performance numbers, mind you, because I never tried to compare that, but in what games actually looked like. Quake 3 Arena is a good indicator. No way a 1996 PC or N64 could run it at the same image quality Dreamcast version has.

I always thought for most of the time, the N64 was behind that of the Saturn and PS, never mind a PC. When I play Grandia II on the DC it gave me that PC look to it, so did many DC games like SEGA Rally II, SEGA GT . Its never bothered me tbh