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    Default Can Hook VCR to HDTV using Composite to USB Adapter Cable?

    Anyone have any knowledge of using composite to USB adapter cables with recent HDTVs?
    I would like to know is it possible to hook my Zenith VRA424 4-head hi-fi VCR to my 2014 model year Samsung UN32J5500AF HDTV using a composite yellow red white RCAs to USB adapter cable and get a workable picture and sound that I'm use to?




    Edit: I would use the one set of RCA component/composite combo input but using it for the PS2 with component.
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    Most TVs with USB ports only use USB for reading media, not fishy Chinese cables that may or may not be capture devices. Just use an AV switchbox of some sort, or maybe a set of extension cables to make accessing everything less of a hassle. All of the ports on my TV are on the bottom. I have to lift it up to plug anything in.
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    Yeah this is the consensus I'm getting from everyone and has cemented my fear that it wouldn't be an option.
    To add they're telling me an HDMI to RCA converter/adapter would be the way to go but unforchantly have all three HDMI inputs are in use and I don't want to use HDMI switcher either also I not looking to spend hundred to use the VCR.

    My next step is try the coaxial input but I don't know if it will accept an analog signal? Or I guess I will need to move the VCR to the CRT TV setup if want to use it still but that's got a lot going on too.

    Damm you digital world!

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    You could just use a cheap capture device to connect the VCR to a computer, if you're not using it for games. The 200ms+ lag won't really be an issue with VHS tapes, but will kill you stone dead in any game requiring fast reaction time. Mine is connected both to a CRT and to my internal capture card, but I've got all sorts of cables floating around.
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    I am warming up to the idea of using a Diamond VC500 USB 2.0 One Touch VHS to DVD Video Capture Device with Easy to use Software, Convert , Edit and Save to Digital Files
    But I still could use it to just feed my PC with the picture and sound and to just watch VCR signal so I can see on the HDTV? I not to crazy about starting to make the tapes into digital but maybe but it's apart of "hey I'm still using my old VCR cool" to use it.
    ha-ha Coming full circle and even more funny because the HDTV is sitting on the VCR.

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    My setup is: s-video switchbox into rear inputs of my SVHS deck, whatever I need in the front input, and the output goes to an internal capture card. The feed is viewed through OBS. Composite from the VCR output goes to my CRT. Component goes into a crap Hauppauge capture device, and is piped back out to the HDTV, which is my second monitor. This only works because I have two TVs, somewhat bookending my computer monitor, and a T-shaped array of tables to host all of my AV equipment and computers.
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    Don't buy those cheap composite to USB adapters, the frame rate on them is terrible and the colors can also be wrong and/or washed out.

    What I use for the moment instead is a DVD Recorder with S-Video input and I just rip the video off the DVD-R using video ripping software. It looks vastly superior to the cheap so called VHS/DVD to USB adapters.

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    4:36 AM?

    Isn't the frame rate and colors dependent on the software?

    The cable in the first post is out looking at the Diamond VC500 now.

    I drew inspiration from Transfer VHS tapes to your computer to look at the Diamond VC500 but I am really not looking to transfer the tapes to digital I just want to see them on my Samsung UN32J5500AF HDTV from the EVGA GTX 1050 Ti feed over HDMI cable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeDeeNo76 View Post
    4:36 AM?

    Isn't the frame rate and colors dependent on the software?

    The cable in the first post is out looking at the Diamond VC500 now.

    I drew inspiration from Transfer VHS tapes to your computer to look at the Diamond VC500 but I am really not looking to transfer the tapes to digital I just want to see them on my Samsung UN32J5500AF HDTV from the EVGA GTX 1050 Ti feed over HDMI cable.
    I'm a night owl

    Anyway, I thought that at first too, that it was the software that came with it. But I had used Sony Vegas for video input from the USB adapter, and it had the same exact effect. The frame rate was bad, as in it would constantly start almost looking like a slide show every 5 seconds, go back to normal, then repeat over and over. The contrast of the colors was wrong and there was no way to fix it. I ended up returning it because it was utterly useless. You get what you pay for, it's better to get a decent PCI or PCI-E 1x video capture card even if they're older capture cards, but older PCI capture cards may require Windows XP or maybe they would work on Windows 7 in compatibility mode.

    Here's a screenshot I made from when I opened an ebay return case:

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    You can get an HDMI splitter/Switch 3 to 1 for example, which will switch between sources once any of them powers on, as well as an ability to switch manually using a button.

    For RCA there are RCA hubs which do the same basically. I'm using both 3 to 1 HDMI splitter as well as the RCA switch.

    Also I'm still using the Diamond Multimedia VC500MAC USB 2.0 to capture all of my Composite/AV and S-video consoles. I had it for 5 years and still works like a charm, once thing to note is to not use cheap AV cables with it, go for the pricy one. I'm running this on latest MacOS, installed on Macbook Pro late 2017. No frame rate problems nothing, I just had to tweak around with capture software settings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadkill View Post
    I'm a night owl

    Anyway, I thought that at first too, that it was the software that came with it. But I had used Sony Vegas for video input from the USB adapter, and it had the same exact effect. The frame rate was bad, as in it would constantly start almost looking like a slide show every 5 seconds, go back to normal, then repeat over and over. The contrast of the colors was wrong and there was no way to fix it. I ended up returning it because it was utterly useless. You get what you pay for, it's better to get a decent PCI or PCI-E 1x video capture card even if they're older capture cards, but older PCI capture cards may require Windows XP or maybe they would work on Windows 7 in compatibility mode.

    Here's a screenshot I made from when I opened an ebay return case:
    https://i.imgur.com/PJJOCuU.png
    Yeah video capture cards are to pricey for what looking to do with them. Incidentally, I only install new of anything that goes inside the system as I just can't risk it.

    I need to try a coaxial cable ... it just makes me laugh because 25 years ago wanted to get away from using it now I may have to go back to using it and it looks like this HDTV is fact analog capable oddly.

    Quote Originally Posted by foxnoodles View Post
    You can get an HDMI splitter/Switch 3 to 1 for example, which will switch between sources once any of them powers on, as well as an ability to switch manually using a button.

    For RCA there are RCA hubs which do the same basically. I'm using both 3 to 1 HDMI splitter as well as the RCA switch.

    Also I'm still using the Diamond Multimedia VC500MAC USB 2.0 to capture all of my Composite/AV and S-video consoles. I had it for 5 years and still works like a charm, once thing to note is to not use cheap AV cables with it, go for the pricy one. I'm running this on latest MacOS, installed on Macbook Pro late 2017. No frame rate problems nothing, I just had to tweak around with capture software settings.
    For a normal person using a HDMI switch would be an option but I'm not normal. I setup each HDMI source specifically for what is connected to it (cable box, PS3, this PC) and spent time doing to get them just right. These HDTV's have a lot setting and sub-settings.

    Thank you for your experience with the Diamond VC500 I think at lest want to try one and it could be fun to experiment with if I can get one for only $20-30. Are you using the Ez Grabber and Cyberlink's Power Director 12 software the unit came with? I already have Power Director 10 that came with the Pioneer BDR-209M Blu-ray Burner but haven't used Director 10 much.

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    I setup each HDMI source specifically for what is connected to it (cable box, PS3, this PC) and spent time doing to get them just right. These HDTV's have a lot setting and sub-settings.
    Oh I see, I don't think any TV released prior USB 3.0 era would support video input via usb port(just assuming). my TV does not support separate GAME MODE setting for individual input source, it has 4 hdmi ports and triple component port set, so use I those hdmi ones for PS4, Switch, TV box and 4th one is split by 3(used for Apple TV, SNES Mini and HDMI Genesis clone), I use 1 copmonent input for PS2, 1 for comb filter pathrough AV NES and famiclones with AV only(basically to clean the shitty composite) the 3rd one is free for whatever needs.

    Are you using the Ez Grabber and Cyberlink's Power Director 12 software the unit came with? I already have Power Director 10 that came with the Pioneer BDR-209M Blu-ray Burner but haven't used Director 10 much.
    I'm using VideoGlide for MacOS, it's pretty old but works like a charm and has more settings compared to Ez Grabber or PD. As for the Windows from my experience(used a couple of times) Ez Grabber looks cheaper and has less features but it runs better than PD which is buggy as hell. Plus EZ has that 90's vibe to it lol so it's more fun to use to capture AV videos

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    I've been told else where "The USB port on that TV is not capable of video. It's intended for sticking a USB stick with media on it to play. Most TV's don't do video over USB." and "If the USB was to play video it would probably be looking for a data file like MPEG or AVI that is processed by the TV instead of video." so guess not. I know it can do stuff like Ruko streaming media through USB and that's kinda what gave me the stupid idea in the first post. Ha-ha

    My old HDTV was an Samsung LN26A450 and yeah had separate settings for all sources which were 3x HDMI 2x Component 1x Composite or 1x S-Video not at the same time 1x VGA inputs plus 1x RCA Line Audio output. I was using all but the S-Video and VGA I stopped a while back.
    But the power supply couldn't take living anymore.

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    Wait, this whole time you wanted to connect a game console to an HDTV via USB??? I thought you were trying to connect to a PC. No HDTV in the world does that. Just as EyeDeeNo76 said, HDTV USB input is for USB flash drives with video/music/picture media that can be played back on your TV, or just to get +5v power. On older HDTVs, USB was primarily used for updates only from flash drives or again, to just get +5v for a device.

    Just simply get a cheap composite to HDMI upscaler which actually can be plugged into your HDTV's USB port for power (but you still need to connect it to an HDMI port for video).

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