Nintendo DMCAing emulators in bid to remain relevant to anyone older than 10

[sull56ivan2010]

I support Nintendo's rights to protect their IP. In Japan, they have to defend/pursue damages for their IP or risk losing rights to the properties.

That said, this title is kind of missing the fact that Nintendo is outselling Sony 2.5 to 1 in Japan, is currently enjoying revived success in Europe, and running neck and neck in NDP for North America with the Switch. Selling 20 million pieces of hardware in 1.5 years is hardly irrelevant.

What happens with the Switch worldwide is irrelevant. Even if they are within their rights, which they are, A bunch of NES and SNES games is not going to give them any huge profits. It's not like they are that uncommon to find. Is it really worth fighting just to milk Mario, Zelda, and a bunch of other titles for the 10th time despite tons of copies being out in used game stores?

[BonusKun]

Seems like you didn't read the article you link at all or you are very special engine

Watch the tone you're talking to about people.

[Mad Moham]

I think rather than complain about Nintendo's current legal actions it would be better to appreciate the fact that Nintendo didn't shut down rom sites a lot sooner. Nintendo have every right to protect their IPs, but sadly there's always someone on every forum who doesn't understand that failing to protect an IP could set a precedent that can make it hard to maintain ownership of any work in the future.
Nintendo don't owe anyone free games, regardless of how old the games are.

[gamevet]

I support Nintendo's rights to protect their IP. In Japan, they have to defend/pursue damages for their IP or risk losing rights to the properties.

That said, this title is kind of missing the fact that Nintendo is outselling Sony 2.5 to 1 in Japan, is currently enjoying revived success in Europe, and running neck and neck in NDP for North America with the Switch. Selling 20 million pieces of hardware in 1.5 years is hardly irrelevant.

The Switch makes absolute sense for Japan, which has been dominated by portable gaming for nearly a decade. The sales in the West are what really impress me.

[Sik]

I think rather than complain about Nintendo's current legal actions it would be better to appreciate the fact that Nintendo didn't shut down rom sites a lot sooner. Nintendo have every right to protect their IPs, but sadly there's always someone on every forum who doesn't understand that failing to protect an IP could set a precedent that can make it hard to maintain ownership of any work in the future.
Nintendo don't owe anyone free games, regardless of how old the games are.

There are two reasons for this:

1) They had been relying on ESA to do this up to this point, and ESA seemed to have been taking the minimum effort approach (send a C&D to whoever they could reach and call it a day).
2) ROM sites probably have lots of layers on top of their whois data which makes tracing them down a pain in the ass (and there's nothing that can be done unless you have the real address of whoever you want to sue).

Nintendo would be happily landing lots of people into prison if they could do it right now. The two targets here (that GitHub repo and LoveROMs) were just plain careless.

[waterclaws6]

They also able to sue LoveROMs because the site was operating in the USA, specifically Arizona, which make it easy and fair target compared to most other Rom sites.

[Yharnamresident]

I think rather than complain about Nintendo's current legal actions it would be better to appreciate the fact that Nintendo didn't shut down rom sites a lot sooner. Nintendo have every right to protect their IPs, but sadly there's always someone on every forum who doesn't understand that failing to protect an IP could set a precedent that can make it hard to maintain ownership of any work in the future.
Nintendo don't owe anyone free games, regardless of how old the games are.

But how come Nintendo is the only one who does this? you don't see Sony, Sega, Capcom, Rockstar, or even EA doing this.

Nintendo should learn from CD Projekt. You can't force people to purchase your software, you can only encourage them. And like that Jim Sterling said in that video posted on the 1st page, I don't think anyone feels guilt for pirating Nintendo software because of their militant obsession of protecting their IPs. No other company goes as far as them.

[Bottino]

Boy, I'm sure that the execs at Nintendo are overjoyed that us lowly peasants are so eager and quick to come at their defense.

Poor little Nintendo, they're just trying to make an honest buck and these dirty ROMers are screwing with them.

Ingenuity is a blessing; must be wonderful to see the world in those terms.

Nintendo would be happily landing lots of people into prison if they could do it right now. The two targets here (that GitHub repo and LoveROMs) were just plain careless.

We're talking about a corporation that has sent a Pokemon doujinshi artist to jail in Japan in order to make an example out of him/her. Not to mention that whole Game Genie fiasco and the their monopoly during the NES days.

One day people we will understand that the sooner these giant corporations disappear ( Nintendo, Sega, Capcom, Konami, EA, Sony, Microsoft etc ), the better will be for gaming. We don't need the 100th Mario, PES or Sonic game.

The more creative freedom and control developers have, the better and richer the gaming world will be.

[sull56ivan2010]

Boy, I'm sure that the execs at Nintendo are overjoyed that us lowly peasants are so eager and quick to come at their defense.

Poor little Nintendo, they're just trying to make an honest buck and these dirty ROMers are screwing with them.

Ingenuity is a blessing; must be wonderful to see the world in those terms.



We're talking about a corporation that has sent a Pokemon doujinshi artist to jail in Japan in order to make an example out of him/her. Not to mention that whole Game Genie fiasco and the their monopoly during the NES days.

One day people we will understand that the sooner these giant corporations disappear ( Nintendo, Sega, Capcom, Konami, EA, Sony, Microsoft etc ), the better will be for gaming. We don't need the 100th Mario, PES or Sonic game.

The more creative freedom and control developers have, the better and richer the gaming world will be.

Gaming would not be better if giant corporations disappeared. Otherwise, it would be a repeat of 1981-84.

[Leynos]

Wishing thousands of people to lose jobs. How petty just so you can illegally play a 25-year-old game. Nice to see where people's priorities are.

[Bottino]

Gaming would not be better if giant corporations disappeared. Otherwise, it would be a repeat of 1981-84.

Well, the world today isn't exactly the same. There's internet and technology and the access to it has greatly evolved in those +30 years, there is a plethora of small and/or indie studios today, crowdfunding projects etc.

Not to mention that the tools and knowledge are much easily available today.

Wishing thousands of people to lose jobs. How petty just so you can illegally play a 25-year-old game. Nice to see where people's priorities are.

hahaha I don't even know how to respond to that.

[Leynos]

Ok, now we want everyone to go out of business. Ok, that BS quota is met. Now it's time to talk about Tom Kalinske "the liar" for the next 10 pages. After that, this topic is scheduled to talk about SNES and Genesis specs. God forbid anyone says anything positive or talk positively about games in the other topics for fuck's sake. No, just juvenile topics like this and others continually devolving into bashing other companies. You can't have one without the other. Smaller devs and bigger devs both need to exist at the same time to push an industry forward.

[Sik]

Gosh people, calm down. I imagine the idea was more about having everybody be smaller studios. I honestly doubt that'd have the intended effect (and this going by the assumption that they'd be able to sustain themselves).

Also random rambling that this reminds me, something that I see propping up every so often is how several smaller Japanese studios seem to rely on Sega for some of the more expensive things that would be usually out of reach (sometimes acting as their distributor, Sega also allocates booth space for them, I think they share technology too, etc.). I think you probably wouldn't want all the big corporations to go down once you account for that.

[Leynos]

Not many studios have been able to remain small and successful over a prolonged period of time in gaming. Falcom is one of the few I can think of that's still small, independent with well known successful series. Ys V nearly put them out of business tho.

[Da_Shocker]

Ok, now we want everyone to go out of business. Ok, that BS quota is met. Now it's time to talk about Tom Kalinske "the liar" for the next 10 pages. After that, this topic is scheduled to talk about SNES and Genesis specs. God forbid anyone says anything positive or talk positively about games in the other topics for fuck's sake. No, just juvenile topics like this and others continually devolving into bashing other companies. You can't have one without the other. Smaller devs and bigger devs both need to exist at the same time to push an industry forward.

HE wasnt halfway bad in The toys that made us discussing He-Man.