PC gaming is a hassle and don't know how people prefer it.

[bultje112]

updates are usually downloaded in like 10 minutes and if you play games on a somewhat regular basis it will always download while playing other games.

[EyeDeeNo76]

So we're talking PC gaming here ... what's your opinion about this sticking of little blinking lights on and in everything RGB stuff?

[CrossBow]

Just curious, what motherboard is that?

I ask, because I've heard people saying that they couldn't get their 4790K past 4.4Ghz. I often wondered if it has to do with the poor quality of their motherboard and its ability to deliver clean voltage. I've seen motherboard reviews where one board just couldn't deliver stable overclocks while another could push the CPU to the limits. I've used Asus on my 2500K (P8-Z68 Pro) and with my 4790K (Z87-WS) and got wonderful overclocks with low voltages on both chips. I've had 2 different i7-4790k CPUs (I lost the 1st one by pairing high voltage RAM), and even though my second i7 was one that someone RMA'd back to Intel. I was able to get both 4790K CPUs to 4.7Ghz with less than 1.32 volts. I do have one core that hits 79c under full load, even though I'm using a Corsair H110 water cooler.

I use an old Intel DZ68BC. When I first had it I could easily overclock the 2500k to 4.2 and it would stay there solid all the time with voltages set to 1.32. But after I stupidly applied the latest bios they released to support Ivy bridge CPUs, I lost the ability to keep it steady at 4.2 all the time. I'm not the only one to report this. And again, they wrote the bios in such a way that it wasn't reversible once you installed it. All other bios revisions were reversible prior to this. So whatever Intel did to the bios it permanently modified the bios chip. To be fair Intel does have a warning before you install the bios that you can't go back once you apply it. But no mention about it killing the OC like it does of the Sandy bridge CPUs. I also heard that OC of Ivy Bridge wasn't that great either on this mobo...

[Leynos]

So we're talking PC gaming here ... what's your opinion about this sticking of little blinking lights on and in everything RGB stuff?

I have a backlit keyboard for seeing it at night but other than that all these LED's and shit people have and it looks insanely tacky. I used to like them as well in my 20s but now well into my 30s I think it looks stupid. Not as stupid as race car chairs every streamer sits in but stupid. The race car chairs I can't stop laughing at.

[gamevet]

There are people that put together custom builds for show and there are competitions for it. You put a lot of work and effort into makeong a good looking build. Why not have a little light to showcase what is inside? Just don’t go crazy with a case full of light strips.

[CrossBow]

I used to have 2 UV cold cathode tubes in my case. But I took them out when I replaced the cooling a few months back. The fans on my case all came with blue LEDS already in them with no real way to disable them. Doesn't matter, I replaced them out with some new Enermax fans and yes they are RGB lit. So my fans have a light blue halo ring around them, my water block that came with my AIO is a bright white LED with no control on that... I did cut the LED leads off my SBzx as the red LEDs clashed horribly with the blue scheme I more or less had in place at the time. Oh..and the skull logo on my motherboard lights up to indicate HDD activity. So..I do have some RGB but about half of it is disabled as much as enabled. My wife has blue LEDs in her computer as well but not the full on RGB everything that is becoming quite common.

I do have to admit though, that those RAM modules that feature plasma tubes on them are kinda cool looking though!

Forgot to mention that I do have an RGB keyboard, but it doesn't cycle colors. I have it mostly set to the same light blue as the rest of my case coloring does. Same with my mouse.

[gamevet]

My keyboard is a Razor Black Widow paired with a Razor Death Adder mouse. I can adjust the RGB (it's always green) all the way down to off, but I like it lit up. It also has Cherry switch keys, which are a must for me.

The front of my case has has (2) Corsair 120mm fans with white LEDs, while the rad on the top has the regular Corsiar fans that I moved from the front of the case. My sound card has a built in red led, but you really can's see it, since it points down and my EVGA Classified can have the RGB lights under it name changed to any color and I set to Nvidia green.

[Blades]

Gamevet, you have an amazing setup!

[ITViking]

Windows hasn't changed for more than 10 years now. 10 is running on the old Vista core with a few band-aids here and there, as well as a bunch of no entry signs.

It's an exaggeration to state that "Windows hasn't changed in 10 years" just because its using the same 'evolved' NT kernal... which by the way is far older than 'Vista'. An OS is far more than just its core kernal. The other holdout from Vista is the PE. But in many ways the OS itself is nothing like Vista, and there have been significant changes between Vista, Win 7, Win 8/10.

I've looked after 1500 Windows rigs for the last 10 years. Believe me, there have been plenty of changes.

Just in Windows 10 'feature updates' alone (which are actually full OS rebuilds) we've seen some significant design differences the last two years that have had a terrible impact on third party software because MS has been changing things up with the way drivers & services are loaded.

It's like saying "cars haven't changed" just because they've run on the same basic combustion engine design for many decades. Or that people don't change because they're still using the same brain cells they were born with.

[Blades]

It's an exaggeration to state that "Windows hasn't changed in 10 years" just because its using the same 'evolved' NT kernal... which by the way is far older than 'Vista'. An OS is far more than just its core kernal. The other holdout from Vista is the PE. But in many ways the OS itself is nothing like Vista, and there have been significant changes between Vista, Win 7, Win 8/10.

No it’s not. 10 runs on a slightly optimized Vista core, which was the last time it saw any real changes. If that wasn’t true, drivers wouldn’t carry over as well as they do. NT itself is another great example of how ancient current Windows really is.

By the way, it’s spelled “kernel.”

I've looked after 1500 Windows rigs for the last 10 years. Believe me, there have been plenty of changes.

Looking after = dusting?

It's like saying "cars haven't changed" just because they've run on the same basic combustion engine design for many decades. Or that people don't change because they're still using the same brain cells they were born with.

When they use the same engine and transmission over multiple generations, they don’t change.

[gamevet]

Gamevet, you have an amazing setup!

Thanks!

When you build your own PC, it has a different level of personal attachment.

[ITViking]

No it’s not. 10 runs on a slightly optimized Vista core, which was the last time it saw any real changes. If that wasn’t true, drivers wouldn’t carry over as well as they do. NT itself is another great example of how ancient current Windows really is.

By the way, it’s spelled “kernel.”

The 'core' of the OS is the kernel Mr. grammar police. It's called the NT kernel. It's way older than Vista, and its NOT 'the OS'. Btw.. the NT kernel itself has evolved over the years. Tell anyone who knows better that it hasn't changed and they'll rightly laugh at you.

The reason drivers might appear to carry over well is because of the aforementioned Vista PE. And they don't actually carry over that well. Windows 10 is a lot better at updating them on the fly. They are still updated very frequently however, especially with the changes between feature updates.

Looking after = dusting?

Computer scientist working in education field.

When they use the same engine and transmission over multiple generations, they don’t change.

There are plenty of different models of vehicles sharing the same engine & transmission, some even within the same generation. They are still different models with lots of 'changes' from one model to the next.

The word 'change' is pretty straight forward. You clearly think only the 'kernel' can 'change' the OS. You're completely wrong, but you're entitled to your opinion as incorrect as it may be.

[Blades]

At least you spelled 'kernel' right this time, after I corrected you.

[Leynos]

My old Laptop had a UI to OC. I kept wondering where the option was on my new Acer as it said it was capable. For some reason just editing the registry in regedit changing the model name on Predator sense fixes it and now I can OC from the Predator sense UI. Kinda strange.

[gamevet]

Can you monitor temps?