Streets of Rage 4 (Official Thread)

[Team Andromeda]

The irony of this from you is not lost from anyone here.

Truth hurts ?

[Team Andromeda]

And stop double-posting, that's dumb and annoying too.

Give us a break.

About as dumb and annoying as swearing to never post on a forum again *rollseyes*

[BonusKun]

About as dumb and annoying as swearing to never post on a forum again *rollseyes*

Don't even start pulling up shit that has nothing to do with this thread.

[Knuckle Duster]

These french fucks shoulda stuck to Wonderboy, fuck off with your shitty redesigns and cliche anime tropes.

Original Shiva made you feel like you just encountered a fucking demon and you were in for a real fight, new Shiva is.. lol that's someone you beat up because he's revolting.
and that's how I feel about the entire game, this isn't Streets of Rage. this is Streets of I'm 12 years old and suspenders and shades are cooooooool man, also what if his Donovan's pants were hanging off his ass? thats kewl man!"

It's a 12 year old power fantasy.

You come to look at Streets of Rage, a Final Fight clone where you beat the piss out of wrestlers, punks, bikers, etc. as if any of them are not 12 year old power fantasies?

Who were the ones buying SOR2 when it launched on Genesis? Teenagers. The whole franchise is fucking absurd and built for edgy teenage customers of the early '90s. The same kids that dumped money into Street Fighter and Neo Geo cabinets. The same kids actually impressed by graphics in Mortal Kombat. This game itself is more of the same but also full of fan service. Anime tropes? You mean the bullshit cliche stuff that made up 99% of 80s/90s action games or cartoons?

I'm glad it's 2D and hand drawn. I'm glad it's a style not common in other games that usually run with pixel art bullshit. This style hasn't worn out it's welcome.

[Virtua Hunter]

@VH: Barone is right even tho I was trying to say it much nicer. I don't care that you don't like SoR4. That's perfectly fine. It's when several people have put legit holes in your argument, you just double down and what you keep saying. I'm fine with any legit discussion but you're not here trying to talk. You're just trying to piss people off.

And yes several other mods would have seen what you've been doing in this thread and hammered you for it.

Then I'm sorry but you got it all wrong. Nevermind, at this point I had enough of being the only one that must justify everything, while others are given free tickes for trolling and offense, so it's better to stop here.
But this thing still bothers me, people are not banned when they made "unpopular posts", people are banned for this kind of behavior:

Fuck off, mate.

This was totally ignored.

[Knuckle Duster]

This was totally ignored.

[Leynos]

I'd love to see a new Strider in that art style. The animation on the scarf would be great. I loved the 2014 game but a Strider game in this style more akin to the arcade game. God, please!

[Team Andromeda]

The irony of this from you is not lost from anyone here.

@VH: Barone is right even tho I was trying to say it much nicer. I don't care that you don't like SoR4. That's perfectly fine. It's when several people have put legit holes in your argument, you just double down and what you keep saying. I'm fine with any legit discussion but you're not here trying to talk. You're just trying to piss people off.

And yes several other mods would have seen what you've been doing in this thread and hammered you for it.

Don't even start pulling up shit that has nothing to do with this thread.

So you want to stay on topic and have a debate ? .

Tell me then,..

What's Yuzo Sister age got to so with anything?.

Why did SEGA allow a bunch of unknowns and a new team, to be intrusuted with making a sequel to a SEGA IP and also given at the time.One of SEGA biggest official sized Mega Drive cartridge size limits ?


What were the development tools and libraries SEGA gave the SOR II Team (or any 3rd party MD developer for that matter)?

Why did SEGA not bother to fund or even publish Streets Of Rage IV ?

[Mega Drive Bowlsey]

I loved Phantasy Star II for what it was and had been dying to play 16-bit RPGs and console style 16-bit games. But it was still a major letdown as a sequel and didn't feel like it was part of the same series or universe.

But that didn't take anything away from Phantasy Star, which only continues to get better with age to me.

Similarly, I couldn't believe that Sega would waste the Phantasy Star name on an online Dreamcast game. Once again it didn't feel connected to previous games, other than sharing some style with PSII. But I wound up loving it and getting addicted for far too long.


I loved both the arcade and SMS versions of Monsterland but was glad that they did something different with each Monster World sequel.


Lame sequels to movies don't ruin early entries for me. I see each new TV series or film based on an existing property as an interpretations of stories from an alternate universe.

I don't get hung up on details that don't make sense in the originsl Star Trek series or that the later films seem nothing alike. I think of the TV show as how a 1960's TV show would turn out if it was based on a real history of similar events. I see eemvery new entry into franchises incorporating previous entries into their mythology, but each entry only being connected to what came before.

This way I appreciate or dislike any single work on its own and within context.

I'm not holding out for major publishers to being out new entries into short lived series from decades ago. But I do look forward to all the different ways homebrew productions breath new life into classic game ideas.

This is a great way of looking at things and I must try to do the same. I get too easily pissed off when my favourite games/films get crappy remakes/reboots/sequels. I ought to just view them as different takes on the same theme, instead of viewing them as a personal affront to my treasured memories/childhood.

With regards SOR4 I haven't played it yet but will get round to it as soon as I can. I find it interesting that it's apparently had such a polarising effect on people.

[zyrobs]

modern french comic style that try to imitate japanese anime

See, the problem with this statement is that it shows that you have absolutely no fucking clue about what you are talking about. To begin with, can you even name one French comic without googling it up?

Cause I've been reading those pretty much since I could read, and French artist have been "trying to imitate Japanese anime" since forever. The word "animé" itself comes from France. So by now a "modern" French comic wouldn't be trying to "imitate Japanese anime" because they have been doing so for almost 3 decades, and by this point the styles have merged so much that it's completely pointless to call it as such. It's not the early 00s anymore when anime is a nerd subculture, completely normal cartoons use anime stylistic choices or tropes every single day.

So tell me, what modern French comics are you talking about here?
Out of the stuff I have been reading in the past decade, I can name only a few that had "anime style": The Wakfu/Dofus/Ankama stuff (which is a flash game turned into cartoon turned into comic, each one which looks 10x better than SOR4), Freaks Squeele (which was actually done in manga format and looks 20x more detailed than SOR4), and perhaps the comics drawn by Alessandro Barbucci (WITCH, Sky Doll, Lord of Burger, Ekho) who is Italian, not French. But the thing is that none of those comics sell so much that they could be considered as trend setters, to be called as prime examples of modern French comics. The actual best selling modern French comics sure as shit do not have anime style, and for every lesser selling anime style book you have dozens, hundreds of others which don't.

tl:dr; your arguments against SOR4 don't make sense beyond "stop liking what I don't like". Which is not an argument: it's an opinion. Less than that, it's just whining.

And you are too dumb to even realize that, that's why we are just trolling you now. It's more fun.

This was totally ignored.

It wasn't; someone gave me a reputation for it.

[Silanda]

With regards SOR4 I haven't played it yet but will get round to it as soon as I can. I find it interesting that it's apparently had such a polarising effect on people.

Don't let a few posters here fool you; it's not particularly polarising. The game's not perfect and not beyond criticism, but the reception has been overwhelmingly positive despite the impression some try to give.

[Sik]

This was totally ignored.

Fuck off :​O)

The word "animé" itself comes from France.

Nitpick, but I thought it was a shortened version of アニメーション /animēshon/? (lit. "animation" in katakana) Though again, Japan uses the word to describe any cartoon, it's just overseas where it refers specifically to Japanese cartoons.

But yeah, the whole complaint is silly anyway since the artstyle is a lot closer to Western comics. It's… really nothing like the common artstyle for manga/anime, really.

[gamevet]

I’ve never thought of the art style of the original Streets of Rage as going for an Anime style. It was definitely going for a more western look.

[zyrobs]

Fuck off :​O)

Nitpick, but I thought it was a shortened version of アニメーション /animēshon/? (lit. "animation" in katakana) Though again, Japan uses the word to describe any cartoon, it's just overseas where it refers specifically to Japanese cartoons.

But yeah, the whole complaint is silly anyway since the artstyle is a lot closer to Western comics. It's… really nothing like the common artstyle for manga/anime, really.

It depends where you first heard it. Over here in Europe, it comes from dessin animé which is just French for cartoons. Note the accent on the é. The French were bringing over stuff from the 80s already, and licensed them around the continent; we had Dragon Ball, Sailor Moon, Candy Candy, and a bunch other stuff airing with French intro songs and using French character names (Roshi was Ingenious Turtle, and Piccolo was Satan).
Manga Entertainment was also releasing a lot of OAVs on VHS tapes, their logos were used everywhere in magazines that reviews such content. In fact the whole style wasn't even called as anime, it was just "manga style". This was in 1993/1994, mind you. "Animé" was definitely used around here in magazines far before it became an internet subculture.

The shortened "アニメ" romanization is also valid, but I'm sure that "animé" was used prior that. Over here, anyway. I don't even know when the americans started getting anime - but we had it in the early 90s already, and that's not counting Moomins, Nils Holgersson, or Maya the honeybee, which were European properties that got Japanese animated cartoons, that then aired in European TV in the 70s/80s.

[Leynos]

We got anime in the 80s. Early 80s. Tho as a kid Iheard it referred to as Japanimation.