Best way for reader-writer to learn Japanese?

[vexatious]

Tried: "My Japanese Coach" on Nintendo DS and a few Windows Steam Indie games (couple forgotten names but something like hiragana battle or something. Resembles "Final Fantasy" 2D clone).

After going through "My Japanese Coach", noticed most of the stuff didn't stick into my head, but the stuff I copied and wrote on paper (mostly single characters) kinda did stay with me.

There a definitive way to learn all writing systems very fast; heard some people learn in a couple months, but I've been repeating for over a year and it's still vague.


Thanks

[Mad Moham]

What do you mean by 'reader-writer' ? Do you mean that you only want to be able to read/write but you're not concerned with speaking the language? Sorry, I never heard that term before.

The only way I know of to learn any language is to dive in and immerse yourself as much as possible. You obviously have some idea of what works for you, so apply that strategy.

If someone says they learned a complex subject rapidly, ignore them (or smack that liar in the face). You're just putting unnecessary pressure on yourself, and that person is probably full of shit anyway. You have to enjoy the process and engage in it fully, instead of being concerned with fast results.

Have a goal in mind, have a reason for achieving that goal, then work towards it. But if you're looking for specific strategies, enrol in a course at college (or wherever you can find a course), that way you can at least have some immersion and you'll hopefully receive immediate feedback and some helpful learning techniques.

*Edit
You might also want to consider joining a forum specifically for Japanese learners, rather than this forum. I'm sure there's someone on here who's learned Japanese and is helpful, but did you honestly think this was the place to ask?

[vexatious]

Well figured I'd ask since I only have access to reading and writing materials. This place seems more communitive compared to segaxtreme forums... I'm not in Japan or with Japanese either.

[Raijin Z]

On 8 /v/ there is typically a Japanese learning thread with a lot of resources. I'll not post the Mega links here, for obvious reasons.

Don't come to tell us about Duolingo, we know that it exists and it is generally frowned upon for using a contrascientific new-aged hippie didactic philosophy, and is designed feel as effortless as possible, even at the expense of actually learning anything.



>[Resources]

DJT guide: https://djtguide.neocities.org/

http://pastebin.com/w0gRFM0c

>Alternate DJT Site that is currently being maintained:

https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/index.html



>[Anki and Decks]

Anki: https://apps.ankiweb.net/

Core 2k/6k: REDACTED

Core2k/6k content: https://core6000.neocities.org/

Anon's Japanese Learner Anki package: REDACTED

KanjiDamage deck: https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/748570187

Kodansha's Kanji Learner's Course deck: https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/779483253



>[Websites, Apps, and Books]

RealKana: http://realkana.com/

Kana Invaders: https://learnjapanesepod.com/kana-invaders/

Genki I and II (2nd Edition): REDACTED

Forvo.com: https://ja.forvo.com/

Mainichi.me: http://mainichi.me/

Rikaichan: http://www.polarcloud.com/rikaichan/

GoogleIME: https://www.google.com/ime/

KanjiVG: http://kanji.sljfaq.org/kanjivg.html

IMABI: http://www.imabi.net/

Tae Kim's Guide to Japanese: http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/

KanjiDamage: http://www.kanjidamage.com/

KANJI-Link radicals: http://www.kanji-link.com/en/kanji/radicals/

Japanese Audiobooks: http://how-to-learn-any-language.com...241&PN=1&TPN=1

All Japanese All The Time: http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com...nd-to-fluency/

Erin.ne.jp: https://www.erin.ne.jp/en/lesson01/index.html

R.A. Miller's A Japanese Reader: REDACTED

Jisho: http://www.jisho.org

Japanese Google Dictionary: https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/

KanjiTomo is a program for identifying Japanese characters from images: https://www.kanjitomo.net

[Gryson]

Download Anki, learn to use it, and then browse ankiweb for the decks you want to study.

There is no better way to learn the writing systems and vocabulary.

[Mad Moham]

Download Anki, learn to use it, and then browse ankiweb for the decks you want to study.

There is no better way to learn the writing systems and vocabulary.

Some of the best advice ever. I've been using Anki for a few years (not for a language though) and its one of the best tools I've ever found. There's plenty of decks available for it, but even when existing decks don't meet requirements, making your own deck never takes too long.

I've heard that Memrise is also very good. But any spaced repetition tool should do the job:

https://www.memrise.com/

[Raijin Z]

My advice is to not drag your feet in learning. It's an order of magnitude less difficult to learn Japanese in your twenties, than when in your forties.

[vexatious]

Thanks. Will check that stuff out.