Google Stadia: Onlive 2.0 (Official Thread)

[BonusKun]

Honestly I'm sorta done with a new console after the Switch. It's going to have to take some seriously good exclusives to even entice me into another system. Honestly I think 3 is enough in this market as it is.

[Gryson]

So it's been announced and, as expected, it's just a streaming service.

Which means when Google abandons it in two years, you won't be able to play any of the games you bought.

[Leynos]

Google Ouya

[parallaxscroll]

Skip to 16:30

Starts out real boring, and then the demos and promises.

breakdown

A streaming only, INSTANT Access system with controller.
Streams up to 4K 60fps HDR, will later add support for 8K 120fps
Stadia instances are 10.7 Teraflops of GPU power
Can click Play Now in a STADIA enabled browser and join instantly on sites like YouTube.
Connects using Chrome as a streaming platform across many devices.
Single code base enjoyed across desktop, laptop, TV, tablet, and phone.
Works on existing devices - Chromecast, Chrome browsers, and Chrome browsers.
Works with existing controllers, not just Google controller
Cross-platform multiplayer and save files
Couch co-op and Split-screen using separate instances available
Low latency platform for "everyone."

Developers can use multiple GPUs as well, so this platform's potential is highly scaleable.

I'm highly skeptical of it all, since there's no console. It's streaming-only.

[Ecco]

"Rumored" meaning some guy on Youtube said something without a shred of evidence.

The links posted suggest that this will be a streaming device - streaming game play that is running on Google's servers.

Google doesn't have a good track record when it comes to hardware. They seem quick to abandon things. At least, that's my impression.

Wow running videogames directly off their servers would be awful, just imagine all the game-breaking glitches and disconnections that could happen constantly, any time there's a lag in your internet connection or whatever.

I still can't use Facebook and YouTube without annoying glitches happening lol so the idea of running full videogames off a server sounds terrible

[Leynos]

They had some lag issues and Doom screen glitches and shit on stage. It wasn't quite the Xbox One reveal bad but it wasn't good either. This thing is not going to make Sony or MS hurry up and reveal their next system. I don't doubt they may use an idea or two from this but by then those systems will be more powerful than this.

[Da_Shocker]

I'm pretty much like fuck google. I'm not a huge fan of streaming in the first place but I do stream for free on Nvidia's GeForce Now platform and if you do buy a game on that platform you do get a steam key or GOG I think. I have purchased games from google only to have them not work with a new OS update, be removed permanently over email privacy concerns. This is especially problematic with premium games purchased on the ShieldTV.

[The Jackal]

Lolnothanks from me. I boycott anything cloud gaming based out of principle.

[NeoVamp]

LINK YOUR GMAIL TO YOUR FACEBOOK, LINK YOUR FACEBOOK TO YOUR SHOPS, LINK YOUR SHOPS TO YOUR PROFILE, LINK YOUR PROFILE TO YOUR PORN ACCOUNT, LINK YOUR PORN ACCOUNT TO YOUR GOOGLE GAME CONSOLE!

We need to know everything about you.

[parallaxscroll]

Deep State.

[Team Andromeda]

The tech sounds insane. If it works this could be huge and transform gaming for the next gen

[Lan Di]

You can pretty much best believe that Google is in this to win in the long haul. Google is not interested in physical game media or hardware. In fact google looks down on it as antiquated. This is the future and Google wants to own it. Google wants to own the majority of the game streaming business, just like they own the majority of smart phones sales ( In 2017, Android accounted for more than 80 percent of all smartphone sales to end users worldwide),web browsers, etc. The next batch of next generation Sony and Microsoft consoles (definitely Microsoft) will pretty much be the last for both of them. Microsoft's Xbox Play Anywhere and Google will be the titans with streaming . Both have literally billions to burn through to achieve worldwide domination. Look at all the exclusive studios M$ just purchased. Microsoft already has an Xbox One with no optical drive due to drop this year. Sony has the PlayStation Now streaming service, and Nintendo is the wild card, for now.

For now Google will focus on the western 3rd party FP shooters, the Maddens, the FIFAs, as Assassins Creeds, and all the casuals games that physical collectors don't bother with. Next will be Japanese games with Sega to be one of the first. Exclusive Google games are in the semi-near future.

[Sik]

The problem is that, huh, so far everything I've heard hints that it's not gonna live up to the hype (as usual for streaming). They insist on their GPU farms and 4K implying that you'll get the best graphics ever but in practice that doesn't happen because it needs to lower the quality due to the connection being up to it, and from what I've heard somebody tried with wi-fi and the lag got significantly worse (kind of an issue when most people will likely use wi-fi!), and there's the data cap issue (not just home ISPs, it'll be a big issue with mobile carriers too — somebody pointed out that parents won't be amused when they see their phone bills because their kids decided to play non-stop). There's also the issue of negotiating with the publishers and agreeing on royalty percentages is not gonna be easy (just look at what's going on with movie streaming).

Add to all that how everybody expects Google to drop the ball in 2-3 years as they usually do and… well, so far things are not looking good.

[Gryson]

Add to that the cost: I've seen estimates that Google is spending $600 per GPU in their GPU farms (double the cost of a home console), and they basically need to be able to support every user at once in a given region because most people are likely to log in to play at the same time (evening). Because latency will be a very real issue here, they can't just connect users to servers across the country that are seeing less use at that time.

And more cost: They have to pay significant numbers of staff to keep the data centers running efficiently and do support ("My game's lagging!"), and also have to power all of those GPU farms.

[BonusKun]

Thread title changed since we finally have a name for this system/thing/whatever.