32X vs. 3DO vs. Jaguar

[jesus.arnold]

Here's a much more intelligent summary:

3DO - Initial price way too expensive. Wimpy 3 button controller (that Capcom fightig pad is a joke). Decent graphics at times, could not do 240p if its life depended on it. Slow as hell. Very long load times. Some great games here and there, but could be counted on one hand.

Jaguar - Hard to find in the stores initially. Crap games except for maybe 2 or 3 at the VERY most. Graphics were unimpressive for the most part. One of the worst and cheapest-feeling controllers ever. Easy to become very bored very fast.

32X - Not too expensive. Cleaned up Genesis graphics. A couple GREAT arcade ports (Space Harrier and After Burner) which were done nowhere NEAR as well anywhere else at the time. Some other great games included Virtua Racing. Library mostly unimpressive, though. Sound was rarely taken advantage of. Looks kind of stupid sitting in ANY Genesis model.

No thats just a more mis-informed summary

When you look back at the time 3DO had some real great state of the art (for the time) games, I mean, when Need for Speed came out all the magazines said it was the best realistic driving game on any format including the PS1 and Saturn for gods sake, Return Fire and Space Hulk were also amazing games that hadn't been possible on the 16-bits. The Jaguar even had a few here and their like Aliens Vs Predator and Iron Soldier. Then we jump back to this thread and what are you guys talking about? perfect ports of Space Harrier, Star Wars and After Burner those games must have been nearly 10 years past their sell by date when they arrived on the 32X and the 32X fans are actually talking about them as though they're something to be proud of?!?!!?

[Tanegashima]

I just can't comprehend how a system with more than twice the number of games published than both the 32x and Jaguar combined can be useless...

[Zebbe]

3D0: It was so overpriced, so anyone who bought it couldn't buy any games for it. They just sat there and enjoyed the tech specs. Those few who also bought games starved to death because they didn't have any money for food left.

Jaguar: Half the price of Saturn and PS, but the bits makes it twice as good. People who didn't realize this were too dumb and the few left enjoyed the greatest library of games ever to embrace a console, with gems such as Tempest 2000, a 3D game with unlimited gameplay fun.

32X: I love this mushroom! I can play my Jap games on it, so I don't have to give my MD cartslot a circumcision. That alone is just worth more than the Jaguar. It has many great arcade ports that are way more fun than those boring war/driving games noone could afford for the 3D0. I also don't need to buy a controller for the 32X since I already have one I can use with my Mega Drive. I think we have a clear winner here!

[rcgamer]

3D0: I think we have a clear winner here!

Yes, the 3DO.

[Zebbe]

Yes, the 32X.

[jesus.arnold]

Need for Speed on the Playstation crushed the 3DO version with MUCH more content and tracks. .

Well, thats you opinion but I am not alone in thinking that the 3DO version was excellent, seeing as the 3DO version of Need for Speed reached #62 in EDGE magazines top 100 games ever made and I quote "The first and still the best, the rock-solid 3DO version of EA's ongoing series offers playability none of it's succesors has ever managed to match"

In the 3DO version, you could drive to the end of 3 different roads. That's it. You couldn't even race, I don't think.

The fact that you didn't actually know that you have to race against "X-man" shows your limited experience of the 3DO version anyway.

[jesus.arnold]

Also, I'm finding it funny people keep bringing up price points, I mean, the 32X cost like, what £150 at launch? and all it offered were slightly better versions of a handful of games you could already get on just about every console out there. So basicaly for £150 you got nothing.

Not only that but I just checked some of my magazines, 32X games originally cost 50-60 pounds and 3DO games cost 30-40 pounds so it was only the actual console that cost the money anyway.

[Tanegashima]

who cares about then anyway, what about now? Most 3Do games are dirt cheap as are the consoles...

[jesus.arnold]

who cares about then anyway, what about now? Most 3Do games are dirt cheap as are the consoles...

3DO consoles still aren't actually that cheap tbh, especially not in comparison to other retro consoles of that era

[Tanegashima]

3DO consoles still aren't actually that cheap tbh, especially not in comparison to other retro consoles of that era

True, I guess...I mean it's all relative, but no more than $80 for one in my experience and most of the best games are all under $20. It is certainly cheaper to collect for than say the SNES...

I'm sure we can all agree, however, that the Sega Saturn pwns all of the above. It has the arcade perfect ports of Afterburner and Space Harrier (though imports) and many 3DO ports including Road Rash and the Horde and D and so forth...

[David J.]

I thought the BEST version of NFS was the SE edition that came out for the PC. That was one hell of a game. I have the Saturn version, but if I remember correctly, the loading times where bad, and it looked like ass. I think it controlled well. Been a couple of years since I last touched it.

I was PISSED the Saturn version lacked the extra tracks.

[Joe Redifer]

Well, thats you opinion but I am not alone in thinking that the 3DO version was excellent, seeing as the 3DO version of Need for Speed reached #62 in EDGE magazines top 100 games ever made and I quote "The first and still the best, the rock-solid 3DO version of EA's ongoing series offers playability none of it's succesors has ever managed to match"

This proves Edge magazine is a bunch of idiots. I am glad they did not publish them in the USA. Toilet paper is more valuable then their mag. If they say that the PS version can't offer the playability even though it is the same damn game PLUS a slew of extra tracks, races and extras, then they are just retards. Or spastics (I hear they like that word better in the UK).

The fact that you didn't actually know that you have to race against "X-man" shows your limited experience of the 3DO version anyway.

I owned the 3DO version and did everything there was to do with it! I don't remember the X-Men but I can't be bothered to remember everything about every game I have ever played. The PS version was one of the main reasons I sold my 3DO since the PS version is way better than the wimpy-ass 3DO version.

[nissling]

3Do: One of the worst consoles I've played on. It's way to expensive and to much FMV. The graphics are ok, not more. The only really good game is Return Fire which is really good but it feels a little bit B to play that when you can play Desert Strike if I say so..

Jaguar: When it was a new system, it was amazing. I haven't played so many Jaguar-games but the one I have played is pretty decent actually. But it's maybe not worth spending the money.

32X: Probebly one of the best Add-ons of any console ever. The Sega CD is definatly the best Add-on ever but the 32X is still gr8. I don't have so many games for that console and thoose are Star Wars Arcade, Mortal Kombat 2, Virtua Racing Deluxe, Stellar Assault, Corpse Killer, Knuckles Chaotix and Doom. The only bad game I know for the 32X that game to Europe is Star Wars Arcade. I haven't play Darxide but it looks fun. Great graphics and a few really nice games. Definatly worth spending the money on.

[jesus.arnold]

Decided to update my list again, had to remove kolibri, star wars arcade and Knuckles Chaotix as they don't fullfill the criteria of being 80% and over games (Kolibri - Gamepro score - 3.5/5, EGM - 7/10) (Chaotix - Gamepro - 2/5, EGM - 7.4/10, IGN 6/10) (Star wars arcade - Gamepro 3/5, EGM - 6.3/10)

here’s a list of all the good games released for each console (stuff that would score around 80 percent or more at the time) separated into exclusives (most important) to Ports (least important),
(#) – Denotes that the game is considered one of the greatest games ever made
(*) – Denotes that this was considered to be one of the best versions of that game at the time


Console exclusive

3DO- Star Control 2 (#), Alone in the Dark, Immercenary, Killing Time, The Incredible Machine

Jaguar- Iron Soldier, Alien Vs Predator, Zool 2

32X- Tempo

Games created for that system but later ported

3DO- Return Fire (#), Space Hulk, Need for Speed (#), The Horde, Star Fighter, Shockwave 2, Battle Sport, Lucienne's Quest, Gex, Road Rash (*), D

Jaguar-Tempest 2000 (*)(#), Rayman

32X- None that I can think of

Ports (most of which came from the Amiga)

3DO- Street Fighter 2 (*)(#), Samurai Showdown (*), Cannon Fodder, Syndicate (#), Flashback, Alone in the Dark 2, Bust-a-Move, Lemmings (#), Theme Park (#), Fifa, Madden, Another World (*)(#), Wing Commander III, Soccer Kid

Jaguar- Doom (*)(#), Cannon Fodder, Flashback (*), Theme Park(#), Raiden, Sensible Soccer (#), Worms (#), Syndicate (#), Humans (Evolution Dino Dudes), Soccer Kid

32X- Doom (#), Mortal Kombat 2 (#) (*), Fifa, Virtua Fighter (*), Virtua Racing (*), Space Harrier (*) (#)

[Zebbe]

If you put that "#" next to Tempest 2000 and Mortal Kombat II, then I see no reason not to put it next to Virtua Fighter, Virtua Racing and Space Harrier. Virtua Fighter revolutionized the fighter genre, Virtua Racing did the same to the racing genre and Space Harrier blew people away with its incredible scaling and great graphics back in 1985 + it defined the rail-shooter genre.