32X vs. 3DO vs. Jaguar

[Tanegashima]

Doesn't work worth crap either...the Saturn had the BEST SF ports...

[Aarzak]

Despite not being arcade-perfect (and yes, the mags noted this and pointed out the graphical flaws), the 3DO port of Super Turbo was THE home version of Street Fighter II to have in 1994-1995, at least until the PS1 & Saturn received their first SF home ports in late 1995 ("Street Fighter Alpha") and when the release of "Street Fighter Collection" mostly supplanted the purpose of the 3DO version.

[Iron Lizard]

I remember them making a big deal of that when it came out.

[Strider]

The worst game in the 32X library is better than the best game in the Jaguar library.

[jesus.arnold]

The worst game in the 32X library is better than the best game in the Jaguar library.

I'm sorry but that just isn't true

In fact recently I've been playing some of the 32X games constantly mentioned and reading loads of magazines from the time and I was surprised, to be honest virtually none of the games I put for 32X should be on the list I made at all, all these "classics" you guys keep mentioning such as Kolibri and Chaotix are mediocre at best and were never thought of as being anything else, the magazines of the time gave them 70% style scores when they were lucky.

[MN12BIRD]

Wolfenstien3D on the Jag is one of the best console ports to date! DooM has no music but its a bigger screen and the graphics look better IIRC also enemies could face away from you.

[jesus.arnold]

here's a summary of the consoles

3DO - great console, quite a few gems but way too expensive

Jaguar - A few worthwhile games, not so expensive, iffy controller design, I'd say it was half decent, a little bit of fun could be had with it at least

32X - completely worthless, no games worth playing at all, ugly, in fact it also gets minus points for making Sega look bad

[Joe Redifer]

Here's a much more intelligent summary:

3DO - Initial price way too expensive. Wimpy 3 button controller (that Capcom fightig pad is a joke). Decent graphics at times, could not do 240p if its life depended on it. Slow as hell. Very long load times. Some great games here and there, but could be counted on one hand.

Jaguar - Hard to find in the stores initially. Crap games except for maybe 2 or 3 at the VERY most. Graphics were unimpressive for the most part. One of the worst and cheapest-feeling controllers ever. Easy to become very bored very fast.

32X - Not too expensive. Cleaned up Genesis graphics. A couple GREAT arcade ports (Space Harrier and After Burner) which were done nowhere NEAR as well anywhere else at the time. Some other great games included Virtua Racing. Library mostly unimpressive, though. Sound was rarely taken advantage of. Looks kind of stupid sitting in ANY Genesis model.

[tomaitheous]

I like Joe's list.

32x - least potential of the 3, but would pick it over the other two now a days. It had a blow factor then, but has a cool factor now. Plus what Joe said.

Jaguar - had the most potential (well the CD version did). It had the best specs and best audio setup. But I was skeptical from day one since it had the name "Atari" on it. Launch games with no music = laughable.

3DO - despite it's rich boy price tag, it had couple of decent games. It's overall hardware is was less than the Jaguar which was less than the PS1. It was never bound to succeed.

This topic's sooo long that I forgot what the original question was in context. Was it about collecting now or buying them back then? If nowadays, 32x wins and the other two are tied.

[MN12BIRD]

Why does everyone compare the 3DO to the PSX? It came out 2 full years before the PSX or Saturn so of course it may be lesser in hardware specs. Need for Speed and Road Rash make the 3DO the best out of the three alone. hands down! Both these games where built for the 3DO and didn't see ports to the PSX and Saturn for 2 years! Even then the ports were nowhere near as good as the originals! Not to mention Alone in the Dark the first port from the PC. Granted the PC version was still better but that was true with basically every game at the time. Speaking of PC ports Wolfenstien3D was a good port on the 3DO as well. DooM on the other hand...

[Joe Redifer]

Need for Speed on the Playstation crushed the 3DO version with MUCH more content and tracks. In the 3DO version, you could drive to the end of 3 different roads. That's it. You couldn't even race, I don't think.

[Tanegashima]

Why does everyone compare the 3DO to the PSX? It came out 2 full years before the PSX or Saturn so of course it may be lesser in hardware specs. Need for Speed and Road Rash make the 3DO the best out of the three alone. hands down! Both these games where built for the 3DO and didn't see ports to the PSX and Saturn for 2 years! Even then the ports were nowhere near as good as the originals! Not to mention Alone in the Dark the first port from the PC. Granted the PC version was still better but that was true with basically every game at the time. Speaking of PC ports Wolfenstien3D was a good port on the 3DO as well. DooM on the other hand...

Absolutely! The 3DO came out in 1993 for christ's sake. It was truly an impressive machine! Game wise the 3DO has to win on variety alone. The 32X alone has 30 + games, and the Jaguar 50 and a dozen CD games...The variety is just non-existent! The 3DO has/had some impressive PC ports etc. and I'd say more worthwhile games than either system even if they can be counted on one hand:

I'll give you space harrier and afterburner on the 32X, but the 3DO had the best version of Out of This World/Another World, Return Fire (awesome game that came out a full year before the Saturn/Playstation, star control II which came out in '93. I mean it's a system with a few obvious cool games and a bunch of really neat sleepers no one has ever heard of:

Icebreakers
Cannon Fodder (PC port...cool little game)
Steller 7
Burning Soldier
Guardian War
Plumbers Don't Wear ties (well maybe not...TAKE YOUR DAMN CLOTHES OFF!)

There are more playable/forgettable but yet entertaining and very good standouts on the 3DO than on either the Jag or the 32X and I sorta like the 32X too! But if I had to choose, 3DO anyday.

[gamevet]

Cannon Fodder was also on the Jag and it appeared on the Amiga/Atari ST computers first.

http://www.atarihq.com/reviews/jagua...on_fodder.html

[tomaitheous]

I remember Guardian War. My friend had that one. It sucked.

Also, the PS1 come 1 year and 2 months after the 3DO. That's fairly close time frame. Somewhere in the discussion, hardware specs came up, I thought.

I don't remember a single game on the 3DO that I wanted to play. Maybe 'cause I already had a fast computer, but I doubt that had anything to do with it. Wolfenstein 3D was weak sauce. Seeing it on a 3DO didn't impress. There was another 3D game on the 3DO at the time of Doom I remember - some horror 3D game but it had not celling for floor just like Wolf 3D. Wasn't impressed by that game either. Not sure if it sucked or not - I never gave it a play. Oh wait - Samurai Showdown. I borrowed the 3DO and the game from my friend once. That was a cool port.

[MN12BIRD]

Oh yeah I guess it was 2 years before the PSX in NA only.

Wolf3D on the 3DO is a port of the Mac version and it blows the PC version out of the water. Higher resolution enemies, guns and a flame thrower, rocket launcher! Road Rash and Need for Speed didn't see the PC for a year later. Road Rash was like the biggest thing when it came out EVERYONE wanted to play it!