Does SEGA even really still exist?

[Mega Drive Bowlsey]

Oh Christ, another reminder of the time I spent in the hell that is AT&T.

LOL!

Originally posted by SegaAMD

Dude, Sega is not dead this is an unreasonable opinion coming from fake fans a very fragile idea easily overturned, have you forgotten recent Segata Sanshiro advertisement ? September 25th, TGS and SEGA will be there. time is lord of destiny.

Fake fans?! Sega still exists, and are doing pretty well all things considered, but they are NOT the company of the 80's/90's. I know you love them and want desperately for them to release a new console but not only is it not happening, it would be financial suicide for them if they did! If you truly love Sega, as I do, you would not want them to release a new console because it would finish them off for good.

[SegaAMD]

If you truly love Sega, as I do, you would not want them to release a new console because it would finish them off for good.

you are translating what the fake fans say and represent.

they supposedly love SEGA but at the same time it is never able to do anything, true fans know that Sega has financial resources, knows that SEGA can take borrow from banks, fake fans say that SEGA made mistakes in past, true fans know that SEGA was a victim, big trap.

the fake fans cannot be confused with that person who like SEGA but for some reason does not fully understand all SEGA´s history of SEGA, these we explain and they say: that's cool, fakes insist and insist on the passive narrative, where everything from Sega is seen from a negative viewpoint focusing erroneously on the worst side of the narrative. it is sad but in this time that I am here on Sega-16 I saw that many users follows the passive viewpoint of the historical narrative (which was coined by competitors via their marketing) as opposed to the true fans ''active'' viewpoint,

[Raijin Z]

Most of Sega's greatest talents have long since aged out of the industry, and without a computer revolution to spur young people into taking their places, how are the glory days supposed to return? Ignoring that, the market base for video games is no longer people who crave detailed and moderately difficult games to chew on for weeks on end between school and sleep. It's largely dullards who buy loot boxes, cosmetics, and other nonsense for console and mobile games. Look at the crowdfunding for games like Xeno Crisis and Tanglewood. The games are indeed amazing, and the campaigns were successful, but they didn't pull in enough profit to keep their teams constantly producing new games.

I'd continue, but you cannot reason a person out of a position at which they did not arrive through reason.

[Knuckle Duster]

you are translating what the fake fans say and represent.

they supposedly love SEGA but at the same time it is never able to do anything, true fans know that Sega has financial resources, knows that SEGA can take borrow from banks, fake fans say that SEGA made mistakes in past, true fans know that SEGA was a victim, big trap.

the fake fans cannot be confused with that person who like SEGA but for some reason does not fully understand all SEGA´s history of SEGA, these we explain and they say: that's cool, fakes insist and insist on the passive narrative, where everything from Sega is seen from a negative viewpoint focusing erroneously on the worst side of the narrative. it is sad but in this time that I am here on Sega-16 I saw that many users follows the passive viewpoint of the historical narrative (which was coined by competitors via their marketing) as opposed to the true fans ''active'' viewpoint,

The power of positive thinking, ladies and gentlemen.

It not only lets you label people who appreciate a dead console brand from two decades ago as real, fake, or true believers; It also magically gives Sega Sammy a massive line of credit while ignoring their failures, or that they are now hemorrhaging money due to a global pandemic.

[BonusKun]

you are translating what the fake fans say and represent.,

I'm sorry.............. what?

[Blades]

Most of Sega's greatest talents have long since aged out of the industry

Sega's "Miyamoto" Toshihiro Nagoshi of AM2 fame, and of course Takashi Iizuka, are still there and making great games, especially Nagoshi. More than what Miyamoto has been doing since 1998 IMO.

Sega for some reason does have a way of keeping their talent around for ages. One of their in-house musicians from the Afterburner days, Hiro, is still there. The recently released Sakura Wars was directed by Skies of Arcadia writer Tetsuya Ootsubo, with some great people from the Manga industry working on the game too. If anything, Sega has more old blood actively working on games than Nintendo.

That's what Sega is to me, 20 years ago and now.

[Knuckle Duster]

2000 years from now, historians will learn about an extinct blue hedgehog breed named Sega.

It will be cross referenced with enough junk data about miracle worlds, dreams, shinobis, the biblical book of genesis, planet saturn, that the whole scholarly debate around it will be shuffled into an irrelevant intellectual dumpster. Some dickhead will then seize fame and credit for figuring it all out, that Sega never existed and was just an example of the Mandela effect.


On that day, the ghost of SegaAMD will haunt the entire human race and threaten to sue them.

[Mega Drive Bowlsey]

I'm sorry.............. what?

Your guess is as good as mine.

[midnightrider]

As long as a company called Sega is putting out good games, and allowing for Sonic Mania's and the like, I don't have a complaint. (doubly so if I give up on modern gaming 100% )

[GameUser-16-32-128]

you are translating what the fake fans say and represent.

they supposedly love SEGA but at the same time it is never able to do anything, true fans know that Sega has financial resources, knows that SEGA can take borrow from banks, fake fans say that SEGA made mistakes in past, true fans know that SEGA was a victim, big trap.

the fake fans cannot be confused with that person who like SEGA but for some reason does not fully understand all SEGA´s history of SEGA, these we explain and they say: that's cool, fakes insist and insist on the passive narrative, where everything from Sega is seen from a negative viewpoint focusing erroneously on the worst side of the narrative. it is sad but in this time that I am here on Sega-16 I saw that many users follows the passive viewpoint of the historical narrative (which was coined by competitors via their marketing) as opposed to the true fans ''active'' viewpoint,

[Moirai]

I had totally forgotten about the Orbi delusion. I am literally going out of my way to drink a shot of rum right now over this comment. Well done. God damn.

pour a cold one out for our dear mr sega. RIP

[eeplox]

Now that they've done away with their arcade business, I'd say that's the last nail in the coffin. Their back library is still getting released in good ways tho thankfully.

I think the Atlus arm of the company has surpassed the SEGA arm big time, and it's because all their good developers left when they murdered the DC.

[Team Andromeda]

Now that they've done away with their arcade business

SEGA hasn't. It simply sold off its Arcade centres, but not its Arcade divisions. Also, sorry Atlus hasn't surpassed the SEGA arm. Sonic still sells the most and after that, it's SEGA Europe's Creative Assembly that then does the business, maybe followed by SEGA Europe Sports Interactive

But I get this is a wind-up and a pisstake post

[eeplox]

SEGA hasn't. It simply sold off its Arcade centres, but not its Arcade divisions. Also, sorry Atlus hasn't surpassed the SEGA arm. Sonic still sells the most and after that, it's SEGA Europe's Creative Assembly that then does the business, maybe followed by SEGA Europe Sports Interactive

But I get this is a wind-up and a pisstake post

It's honestly not a wind-up. I'm talking about creativity, not economics. The kind of games SEGA fans want to play are few and far between. We're not getting excited over Football Manager and Aliens games, but that's become their focus. Most of their Japanese developers left the company (were forced out, really) after the Dreamcast, with the few that remained getting pushed out over the next decade. They outsource most of their development now. The kind of games that SEGA fans are looking to play are coming more and more from Atlus.

Now that they've sold off their arcades, they're not going to invest in making arcade games. It was only viable for a company of their size to stay in the arcade development business because they owned the arcades.

[Team Andromeda]

It's honestly not a wind-up. I'm talking about creativity, not economics. The kind of games SEGA fans want to play are few and far between. We're not getting excited over Football Manager and Aliens games, but that's become their focus. Most of their Japanese developers left the company (were forced out, really) after the Dreamcast, with the few that remained getting pushed out over the next decade. They outsource most of their development now. The kind of games that SEGA fans are looking to play are coming more and more from Atlus.

Now that they've sold off their arcades, they're not going to invest in making arcade games. It was only viable for a company of their size to stay in the arcade development business because they owned the arcades.

SEGA sold off their Arcade centers and not their Arcade lines and it's not new .SEGA been cost cutting in the Arcades since 2001 , when it looks to sell off its Arcade manufacturing facility and outsourced all its Arcade unit manufacture and the like .

SEGA will still make Arcade games and well we can say we want the old SEGA games and say that about a lot of companies, but SEGA is having to make games that sells

And how many if the SEGA games have you played of late ? Player Sakura Wars ?, Played Fist of the North Star? The new Yakuza ? , Valkyrie IV ?

SEGA made some rather nice games this gen and I don't think Aliens is SEGA focus at all , it hasn't made a Alien game in like 7 years ....