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    Nonono, Fonzie needs to one-up the existing incarnation of Paprium. Gotta one-up itself until it's perfect™. There's no way such a plan could ever go wrong!

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    After being away from the Genesis for about 5 years, I was super stoked about a new BLAST PROCESSING beat em up coming out when I saw the advert on Youtube a couple months ago. Then I saw the shitstorm. Shame it turned out to this way.

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    Sunk Cost Fallacy.

    Never mind most people would be happy with a PC/Switch release now, and be perfectly fine with cartridge versions down the line.
    If anything, it'd keep Watermelon afloat.

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    Even if the cartridge never came out, a downloadable release would be better than nothing. But Fonzie is unable to compromise or adapt.

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    I guess addon chips were nice on the NES/SNES/Virtua Racing MD to give players a little taste of next-gen games in their consoles. By now Fonzie would need to attach a GeForce RTX 2080 Ti to it to make it worth so much craziness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stifu View Post
    Even if the cartridge never came out, a downloadable release.
    I don't think downloadable release would be feasible, since it has that pesky little special chip!
    -Meu blog sobre Mega Drive/Genesis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulojr_mam View Post
    I don't think downloadable release would be feasible, since it has that pesky little special chip!
    Fonzie sent a custom emulator to contributors to let them play the game. He should be able to release the game as a custom emulator + ROM bundle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stifu View Post
    Fonzie sent a custom emulator to contributors to let them play the game. He should be able to release the game as a custom emulator + ROM bundle.
    Yes, he was using a customized version of Gens. But let's say he didn't even have that, once you go to PC or Switch hardware the chip functions are totally unnecessary. Without the cart limit there is no need for decompression. Music tracks could be stored as PCM. Whatever 3D calculations the chip was doing (LOL @ 3D math in a 2D beat em up) could be done right on the CPU. The DMA issues wouldn't exist. In short every single problem Fonzie has would disappear if not for his obsession with only releasing the game on the Genesis.

    Is there a term in psychology for a person who can only do things one way, even if it means the end of their business and career? It almost sounds like a type of OCD.

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    I think Luis, artist for Paprium, called him "idiot" in this very thread. So it is "Idiocy".

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    Quote Originally Posted by axel View Post
    Is there a term in psychology for a person who can only do things one way, even if it means the end of their business and career? It almost sounds like a type of OCD.
    I think Flygon named it above - sunk cost fallacy, also known as escalation of commitment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escalation_of_commitment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centrale View Post
    I think Flygon named it above - sunk cost fallacy, also known as escalation of commitment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escalation_of_commitment
    Thank you, yes that fits!

    I think Fonzie's next move will be to show up on camera with bruises and tell the world that two Italian brothers wearing hats (one red, one green) jumped him outside of Subway, beat him up and took his only working copy of Paprium.

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    Just wanted to express thanks for the discussion on this forum, given that I can't get information from Watermelon itself.
    Neil B. / I love old skool!
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    Quote Originally Posted by matteus View Post
    Wasn't the DSP planned for implementation in project N? They'd found it difficult to code decent music for the SNES so decided to use the same driver as Papirum and make the music purely PCM based?
    In its current state Project N works without any additional chip.
    The problem is that Fonzie need to clean up the mess with Paprium before Project N can have any chance.
    Last edited by Folco; 02-24-2019 at 01:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Folco View Post
    Project N works
    Bold claim. Who has seen it run? It may just be a bunch of mockups, or at best a broken game like Paprium. Let's face it, it will never be released. Better look out for other projects.

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    Project N wasn't being programmed by Fonzie, so the chances of it actually working on real hardware are definitely much higher.

    That said, we know the project is basically dead because Fonzie doesn't pay, so the point is moot.

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