Paprium: The Official Thread Mk 2

[xelement5x]

Both Tanglewood and Xeno Crisis got it absolutely spot on as to how and at what point to run a Kickstarter, and also for the quality of the end product. Matt was working on Tanglewood’s engine for a couple of years before getting to the stage whereby he felt he could develop it into a fully-fledged game and so was able to release a demo quite early on to encourage backers. Bitmap Bureau didn’t release a demo but the names of the people involved was enough to generate fervour and meet their backing goal. Both provided little snippets of updates without going into too much detail so when the games were finally released, backers were able to enjoy and fully appreciate them without having seen/heard too much and become saturated.

For the record I backed both projects right from the start but haven’t yet backed Demons of Asteborg. I need to see a bit more than an animated bloke running across a rather flat level, albeit with some nice graphical effects. Not criticising the developers and I hope it turns out to be a great game. As a person who doesn’t really care much for collecting homebrew titles, I prefer to have reassurance that the end product will be of similar quality to a legit commercial release from back in the day.

I agree on Asteborg. It looks good but I need a bit more meat first, I'm sure there will be copies available eventually if/when it gets finished.

[Vludi]

I, along with most of the people here, were hoping that when you DO say something, you'd add more than that. It was your comments on Twitter and on Gamesack's video that started the conversation up again, then you went radio silent. This really is a bad look on everyone involved with this game. If you have anything to add, please, do so, we want to hear good news about this game. Otherwise, I don't think that additional vague comments, tweets, etc. that answer little to nothing, are remotely helpful at this point.

Don't forget, people have money tied up in this project, please try to be considerate to the community members that funded this game.

Tbh shills like Luis deserve as low credibility as Fonzie, I understand the staff people that remain silent because they don't want to get further involved in this disaster, but still parroting the "you just wait guys it'll be awesome!" nonsense at this point without any proof nor willing to clear up things whatsoever is just insulting and worthless.

[GameUser-16-32-128]

But Paprika ...

[Gadispalembang]

https://youtu.be/uMZyEYfcKpY?t=184

[Cyberdrive]

Paprium.
Miss you from things that we didn't live yet.

[nihilblack]

Paprium, coming soon since 2017. Longest coming soon ever.

[chilled]

Paprium, coming soon since 2017. Longest coming soon ever.

Wrong.

[axel]

Wrong.

Lots of projects get delayed but the key difference here is that money was taken with the promise that the game would be out soon. Try that at a major studio and as soon as it becomes clear you can't (or won't) stick to a schedule they will seize the assets and assign the project to someone else.

[Bear78]

Wrong.

I pre-ordered SLaVE on the Dreamcast in 2014....

https://www.goatstore.com/Products/S...tion_Preorder/

I'll get an update email about once a year saying it's close to done and will be coming "soon".

[Genesis Knight]

Yeah SLaVE is a similar disaster that gets way less attention. When was the last update? Two years ago?

[nihilblack]

The sad thing about all of this is that it hurts honest people that may require a crowdfunding to finish their games. Now we as users are very suspicious about anyone asking for money in advance.

[Genesis Knight]

Well, which we all should have been to begin with. I think early successes like the Super Fighter Team games got people too comfortable with handing money over early.

[Scrobins09]

On the Genesis front that’s true, but crowdfunding for NES homebrew has been generally successful and reliable with only a few games demonstrating immense delays.

[Raistlin]

Yeah SLaVE is a similar disaster that gets way less attention. When was the last update? Two years ago?

You know what else is a total disaster? Elysian Shadows. When I got my money back last year after numerous attempts I was called a narcissist and an asshole. Girgis needed the money for meds and I dared to tell him to refund me.

[Spendle]

When you think about it, it does seem ridiculous that we would part with cash so readily for something that didn't exist at the time. I did so based on the success of pier solar - Paprium didn't seem like a scam, but a product from a genuine company with a track record (albeit limited). Now, based on Paprium, if Watermelon were to ever function as a legitimate business again, it will never have another pre-order from me. Unfortunately that same philosophy has been carried across to all crowdfund projects - once you've been burned you're wary of being burned again!