Paprium: The Official Thread Mk 2

[NeoVamp]

Yeah... either Fonzie couldn't give up on calling it that or the carts really were manufactured before SoR4 was a thing...

Wouldn't surprise me if his plan was to create the protection in a way where any potential dumps would only produce a rom of the mini game with a header title of SOR4.

[The Wizard who says Ni]

Guys, the LX-V thing is being teased by @1985MAX2 :
https://twitter.com/1985MAX2/status/1353421993446543361

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Is anybody able to guess the content of that first boot line ?
Never had that line ...

[Devil N]

There is such a thing as putting too many secrets in your game. Given how barebones and unfinished the main game feels and how unsatisfying the things you unlock through normal gameplay, chasing endlessly after all these obscure hidden in-jokes is starting to make me feel tired.

[Stifu]

There is such a thing as putting too many secrets in your game. Given how barebones and unfinished the main game feels and how unsatisfying the things you unlock through normal gameplay, chasing endlessly after all these obscure hidden in-jokes is starting to make me feel tired.

Yes. Easter eggs are for finished games.

[Devil N]

Haha, of course it was you that scanned it . Credit has been added, as well as all the screenshots. Thanks! (I should really get some capture hardware... newest thing I have is a noname composite USB "VHS converter" that requires WinXP...)

Regarding the Central Park and Reformatory areas-- they can be seen in Wizard Who Says Ni's videos. Here are some timestamped URLs.
Central Park: https://youtu.be/UBoiJDf5R2o?t=937
Reformatory: https://youtu.be/mfAt6JMYIvU?t=161 (Looks like he accesses it by hitting something offscreen-- need to verify this, I got into this area last night but I wasn't really sure what triggered it)
I think he's probably done the BionMart area but I haven't taken time to find it in one of the videos.

Okay I've tracked down the secret areas in Bion-Mart, Reformatory and Central Park now. Here are the screenshots:

https://i.imgur.com/HjeSoxz.png (Bion-Mart)
https://i.imgur.com/qq2Vj6F.png (Central Park)
https://i.imgur.com/gn3KOnA.png (Reformatory)

I also have a short video up with the Streets of Rage homage area, which hopefully makes it a bit easier for people to find the right spot in the future:

[Pain for Fun]

I wonder how many people have already reported the copyright trademark infringement to SEGA about Paprium using an exact copy of a Streets of Rage character & also the Golden Axe III character that WaterMelon Games used without permission.

[tokay]

I wonder how many people have already reported the copyright trademark infringement to SEGA about Paprium using an exact copy of a Streets of Rage character & also the Golden Axe III character that WaterMelon Games used without permission.

No idea, but one would be a total low-life loser for doing so.

[Pain for Fun]

I guess I am one of those low life's then, lol

[Devil N]

Sega is going to find out one way or another. And I don't expect them to take lightly upon such blatant copyright infringement. Especially not since Sega still sell their retro games through classics compilations and emulation devices. People have received cease & desists for far less than this. It's kind of amazing how closed off from the real world Fonzie really is, if he thinks he can just include materials directly copied from Sega's IP into his game and that nobody will mind. He probably thinks it's fine because it's an homage and everyone will surely understand his good intentions. This could spell trouble for future reprints and re-releases.

[chilled]

I for one would have sued Sega for ripping Final Fight's main character off

[nihilblack]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to chilled again

[Stifu]

I for one would have sued Sega for ripping Final Fight's main character off

No way. He has a blue headband and a different name.
Seriously though, Cody's design was pretty simple and generic, and Sega did not steal any of Capcom's assets. This cannot be compared with what Fonzie did.

[Devil N]

No way. He has a blue headband and a different name.
Seriously though, Cody's design was pretty simple and generic, and Sega did not steal any of Capcom's assets. This cannot be compared with what Fonzie did.

This. There is a very clear legal difference between creating a character that looks similar to and is inspired by someone else's franchise, versus directly copying sprites from another game without permission. If the former wasn't allowed we could basically just give up creative arts altogether, because every painting or piece of music is always inspired by something else. Cody himself will also have been inspired by a character from some martial arts movie, that's just how these things go. But that's not the same as when Capcom or Sega had digitized clips from a movie and put those directly into their games; that is copying and that falls under copyright. It gets a bit more complicated if a character is trademarked, but even then it's usually fine if you loosely base another character on them, so long as you don't directly reference the original inspiration.

[pepodmc]

No way. He has a blue headband and a different name.
Seriously though, Cody's design was pretty simple and generic, and Sega did not steal any of Capcom's assets. This cannot be compared with what Fonzie did.

Even if streets of rage is my favourite beat em up saga, sega must be sued for the music of Sor 1 and Sor 2.

The real tracks that Yuzo used as "inspiration" XD





01.The Streets of rage = Soul II Soul - Get a Life (1989)
02.The Streets of rage = Enigma - Sadeness (Part I) (1990)
03.Fighting in the Street = Royal House - Can You Party (1988)
04.Dilapidated Town = Beau Dollar - Who Knows (1970)
05.Moon Beach = The Night Writers - Let the Music (1987)
06.Keep the Groovin = Black Box - Open Your Eyes (1990)
07.Beatnik on the Ship = Electribe 101 - Talking With Myself (1988)
08.Stealthy Steps = Black Box - Hold on (1990)
09.Attack the Barbarian = Royal House - Can You Party (1988)



01.Go Straight = Inner City - Good Life (1988)
02.Go Straight=Hithouse-Move Your Feet to the Rhythm of the Beat (1989)
03.Go Straight = Landlord - I Like It (1989)
04.Go Straight = Magoria - Mutoid Waste (1990)
05.Go Straight = Bass Value - Do You Wanna Party (1991)
06.Go Straight = Bass Bumpers - The Music's Got Me (1992)
07.Under Logic = The Shamen - Move Any Mountain (1991)
08.Too Deep = Bob James - Take Me to the Mardi Gras (1975)
09.Too Deep = Public Enemy - Rebel Without a Pause (1987)
10.Slow Moon = Childish Gambino - Hold You Down (2011)
11.Wave 131 = Black Box - Everybody Everybody (1990)

[axel]

This. There is a very clear legal difference between creating a character that looks similar to and is inspired by someone else's franchise, versus directly copying sprites from another game without permission. If the former wasn't allowed we could basically just give up creative arts altogether, because every painting or piece of music is always inspired by something else. Cody himself will also have been inspired by a character from some martial arts movie, that's just how these things go. But that's not the same as when Capcom or Sega had digitized clips from a movie and put those directly into their games; that is copying and that falls under copyright. It gets a bit more complicated if a character is trademarked, but even then it's usually fine if you loosely base another character on them, so long as you don't directly reference the original inspiration.

Correct, Cody was inspired by Tom Cody from the film Streets of Fire, which is also where the name Streets of Rage comes from. Final Fight also borrows elements from Double Dragon.

What Fonzie did was really stupid though, he narrowly avoided being sued by his own customers only to risk a lawsuit or C&D from Sega.
Can he alter the sprite via the MegaWire? That would be the best solution, just change it via software update.