Paprium: The Official Thread Mk 2

[zborgerd]

No, it's a dedicated module connected to the jack. Check that :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YRQ...ew?usp=sharing

SPI / UART. Very possible to connect just about anything here for communication. Thank you for sharing.

[zborgerd]

There is an option to use the internal Yamaha chip as a DAC, how the sound change with this option enabled?
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I did try that briefly on the stream. To me the Yamaha DAC sounded less bass-y and had a bit of distortion to it. The default Datenmeister DAC sounded more full and cleaner to me. I think the option is there in case the cartridge's built-in DAC doesn't work properly on certain hardware revisions. I heard reports that sending audio from a cartridge to the Mega Drive can cause some humming noise, something I have indeed noticed (albeit very mildly) with the Mega SD. On my VA4 model 1 Mega Drive it's not an issue but I can imagine that on some later models it might be. My guess is the option exists for compatibility reasons and the default setting is the preferred one.

Yeah the hum is real, though you'll probably won't even hear it unless you hook to hifi equipment (or headphones) like I did. I can confirm it sounds worse with Yamaha DAC, but then again, if enhancing the sound a bit is the main use of an add-on chip, not sure the enhancement it provides is good enough to justifiy all the heck it has brought to its development. Next weeks of investigations will provide more detail on this, but I think everyone suspects anti-piracy is one of the main reasons to have tied the game to a special chip.

The music would have not sounded like this, though. Would have it been great enough without the chip? My guess is probably. Just check it out with the checkbox unticked.

Also what's up with the front facing doors that can get slammed?

Would be limited to something like 8 bit 26 kHz w/ the internal DAC, though makes it a "real" SEGA Genesis game for the purists. Of course, the tracker is still likely offloaded to Daten.

[zborgerd]

That's probably for the best, from what I understand of the STM32s they have many more features than the TI chips, more flexibility, better for audio etc.

STM32 is an ARM chip where the TMS320 on its own is not, though TI has since hybrid chips with the TMS320 integrated as well as ARM in the OMAP line. ST's M4F is similar as is Stellaris / Tiva but less powerful than OMAP.

I use both ST and TI for my projects but mostly TI. It depends upon the peripherals and extra features that you want. Otherwise they have similar parts.

[Gadispalembang]

Still no sign of my favourite track from those Wizard Who Says Ni! playthroughs, but it's looking promising as every track from
the two samplers seem to be present thus far, aside from that one.

[Groovemaster303]

A little medley/DJ style mix I’ve put together.
A lot of the tracks included I have tweaked so are not totally similar to what you hear in game.
I’ve also included a few little interludes, and layered some samples, drums and fx here and there.
This may not be to everyone’s taste but I’ve included them as I want to make sure there are quite a few differences in case an OST is announced.

[chilled]

No, it's a dedicated module connected to the jack. Check that :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YRQ...ew?usp=sharing

Yeah so no modem without buying an add-on to the cart? At least this will increase the tower of power height...
I feel we already had more bonus content from GM303 than what we'll get for the cart.

Also which STM32 ?
https://www.st.com/en/microcontrolle...rtex-mcus.html

[matteus]

Yeah so no modem without buying an add-on to the cart? At least this will increase the tower of power height...
I feel we already had more bonus content from GM303 than what we'll get for the cart.

The design doesn't suggest cart. Although that would be a good idea!

[chilled]

The design doesn't suggest cart. Although that would be a good idea!

Well cart or not, it'll be something that hangs from the 2.5 jack so it can add to to T.O.P. height
What is lame is that it's not on the cartridge, but we get a micro-jack with supposedly 1.2 kbps bandwidth?

[evilevoix]

Has anyone with shipping from the Las Vegas location received their copy yet? The anticipation is really getting to me. I was following Tulio's shipping updates but he's been absent for a few pages now.

Same here. Somewhere in Las Vegas.

[zredgemz]

A little medley/DJ style mix I’ve put together.
A lot of the tracks included I have tweaked so are not totally similar to what you hear in game.
I’ve also included a few little interludes, and layered some samples, drums and fx here and there.
This may not be to everyone’s taste but I’ve included them as I want to make sure there are quite a few differences in case an OST is announced.

Would rep more if i could. This is great. Btw this guy says he lives in the us and received a copy https://twitter.com/krorie/status/13...301339648?s=20

[joyeux]

It's good to see the release of what was being considered vaporware. But it's still unexcusable all the disrespectful treatment customers have been through. Some people may say it's only a game, and it already is, but what involves money needs professionalism and ethics. Maybe some actions were not done with bad intentions, but it feels no lessons were learned and there weren't any regrets. A game whose cost is relatively high, specially in some countries, is not "only a game" anymore. The anger is mostly justified, and after 8 years of development every game flaw will be merciless pointed.
I almost bought the game in the pre order, but I saved the money for an Everdrive. I feel I made the right choice, not because Paprium is a bad game, but because I see more value in an Everdrive.
The game seems to be very fun to play, the sprites are big and the sound is good. But one thing that I don't like is the heavy usage of purple and green colors on most stages I saw in the videos. I wish they used different color sets between stages.

[zborgerd]

It's good to see the release of what was being considered vaporware. But it's still unexcusable all the disrespectful treatment customers have been through. Some people may say it's only a game, and it already is, but what involves money needs professionalism and ethics. Maybe some actions were not done with bad intentions, but it feels no lessons were learned and there weren't any regrets. A game whose cost is relatively high, specially in some countries, is not "only a game" anymore. The anger is mostly justified, and after 8 years of development every game flaw will be merciless pointed.
I almost bought the game in the pre order, but I saved the money for an Everdrive. I feel I made the right choice, not because Paprium is a bad game, but because I see more value in an Everdrive.
The game seems to be very fun to play, the sprites are big and the sound is good. But one thing that I don't like is the heavy usage of purple and green colors on most stages I saw in the videos. I wish they used different color sets between stages.

A lot of people who didn't buy the game seem to have a lot to say

Of course Everdrive is a "better value". It can play over 700 games. People can buy both.

[Stifu]

A lot of people who didn't buy the game seem to have a lot to say

Believe it or not, it's possible to have an opinion from watching videos or reading information, even if you didn't buy the game.
That "you didn't buy it, you can't have an opinion" argument is bullshit. If you want to defend Paprium, use actual arguments instead of trying to silence people or deny their opinion.

[crazyteknohed]

A little medley/DJ style mix I’ve put together.
A lot of the tracks included I have tweaked so are not totally similar to what you hear in game.
I’ve also included a few little interludes, and layered some samples, drums and fx here and there.
This may not be to everyone’s taste but I’ve included them as I want to make sure there are quite a few differences in case an OST is announced.

Love the track at 8:20!!! Not heard this one before... has some shades of the Lotus 2 theme but then goes off and does its own thing. The bongos are dope.

[joyeux]

A lot of people who didn't buy the game seem to have a lot to say
Of course Everdrive is a "better value". It can play over 700 games. People can buy both.

Well, I actually praised most aspects of the game. And I may be comparing two different things here, but the real advantage of the Everdrive choice was to have something real for my hard earned money, instead of being worried for years with the absolute lack of (good) news and statuses. I feel relieved for the people who will receive what they paid for, but it was very unlikely and scary.

Believe it or not, it's possible to have an opinion from watching videos or reading information, even if you didn't buy the game.
That "you didn't buy it, you can't have an opinion" argument is bullshit. If you want to defend Paprium, use actual arguments instead of trying to silence people or deny their opinion.

That was just a simple opinion, and a positive one regarding the game itself. The bad one is a single aspect of the game which many may discord, even the ones who criticize the whole situation.