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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadispalembang View Post
    If I ever do get my copy in, I will desolder the capacitor and see if it makes any difference. If the game doesn't boot up
    without the capacitor, we might be on to something.
    Thanks for all the info on this.
    I'd love to try all kinds of mods if I get my hands on the game soon enough.


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    Wouldn't it be nice if Fonzie communicated and could tell you what the exact issue with those models was
    Maybe he doesn't know all the details either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadispalembang View Post
    If I ever do get my copy in, I will desolder the capacitor and see if it makes any difference. If the game doesn't boot up
    without the capacitor, we might be on to something.
    Well, I can more than happily take my va6 apart and see if it has that cap or not. If not, I can add one in and see if it makes a difference. I don't have any 100pf but I do have some other values I could stick on there and see what happens. Would be great if that is all that were needed as that isn't too terribly difficult to put in as a hard fix.

    I should be able to look at this tonight to see.
    Last edited by CrossBow; 12-28-2020 at 03:53 PM.

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    Last update: Shipping on December 15th from Las Vegas. No tracking number yet.
    I received a large priority mail box from Las Vegas on December 26th from Family that shipped on the 23rd. So it looks like USPS shipping is working just fine. Seems unlikely mine has shipped yet. Wondering if money is tight for WaterMelon and preorders for the next batch are funding the shipping of prior orders. Did they mostly just ship it out to the users with influence to increase orders of the next batch in April? My guess is they sent it out to some people quickly just to drum up more business and get the game "out there". If anyone that has received a copy can post a timeline of the tracking to get to them that would be helpful.

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    Mine has been sat in CARVIN France since 18/12/20 mirroring the op.
    Not worried atm as expected delays due to Covid issues and the Xmas bank holidays hoping to see some movement in the coming days.

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    Can someone outline exactly what the extra stuff in the cart is doing? I thought I read that there was a different DAC on the PCB. Does that mean the game music is not the YM2612's integrated DAC, but something else entirely? There is an option in the options screen that lets me use the YM2612, is that so I can use the default DAC? Is Paprium using their own instead of the Genesis onboard one?

    Also, at what point does this cease to be a Genesis game? I mean, there is a lot going on with the cart. It seems like it adds quite a bit. I think this idea is awesome, and I'd love to see where this goes. It reminds me of a Neogeo, with consistently expanding power and features being added as stuff on the cart rather than stuff on the console. If I recall correctly, there was much more of this sort of thing happening on the Super Nintendo, with DSP 1-4, CX4, SA1, and of course Super FX, Etc. So it's not really something new, but the Genesis didn't really do that, outside SVP, right?

    It seems like all the stuff I've read says the Datenmeister is handling sound, is that all it's doing? (I'm sure that would be a big deal, if that means it offsets other stuff?)

    I just think that with this sort of tech, coupled with something like SGDK, we could have some incredible new Genesis games...Especially if WM were to license the Megawire stuff for other groups to take advantage of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    Last update: Shipping on December 15th from Las Vegas. No tracking number yet.
    I received a large priority mail box from Las Vegas on December 26th from Family that shipped on the 23rd. So it looks like USPS shipping is working just fine. Seems unlikely mine has shipped yet. Wondering if money is tight for WaterMelon and preorders for the next batch are funding the shipping of prior orders. Did they mostly just ship it out to the users with influence to increase orders of the next batch in April? My guess is they sent it out to some people quickly just to drum up more business and get the game "out there". If anyone that has received a copy can post a timeline of the tracking to get to them that would be helpful.
    yes please do has mine says it shipped from France on the 18th of December but not received

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    Fuark. 5 days for an hour drive! I should have gone and picked it up myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossBow View Post
    Well, I can more than happily take my va6 apart and see if it has that cap or not. If not, I can add one in and see if it makes a difference. I don't have any 100pf but I do have some other values I could stick on there and see what happens. Would be great if that is all that were needed as that isn't too terribly difficult to put in as a hard fix.

    I should be able to look at this tonight to see.
    I wonder if some these issues are related to the 32x needing a dongle on the expansion bay of some genesis models that didnt have a sega-cd connected. Something to do with grounding pins?
    https://www.reddit.com/r/gamecollect...ysterious_32x/

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    Delivery Target:UK
    Status: France, Carvin
    Last Update: 22/12/2020

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    I know that Royal Mail has stopped shipping to continental Europe due to the new Covid variant in the UK, but could it be that they also stopped import as well?
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    I just had a new thought. This game is supposed to be pushing the console to the limits both power and CPU wise. Some consoles might need capacitor replacement as they were marginal before, but now are being pushed hard. My CDX started to randomly freeze and reboot on me a few years ago. And even with a new retro duo power supply it still happened. Installed a new set of caps and it has been rock solid ever since. Did a recap of my brothers 32x after it stopped working. Even bought and installed brand new ribbon cables with no change. New set of caps and now it works like new. You have to figure the original hardware is over 25 years old now. Far past the hours the components for designed to work for.

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    Delivery target: Australia
    Shipping History:
    13/12/2020 - 23:19 - Las Vegas USA - Packing...
    14/12/2020 - 08:14 - Las Vegas USA - Shipping...
    Parcel content:
    PAPRIUM LIMITED(E) [PRE-PAID] USD$80.1 x 1 ¹
    PAPRIUM MANGA [PRE-PAID] x 1 ¹
    ¹: Past pre-order(s).

    Support ticket asking for tracking number sent on the 16th. Response ticket telling me it will update when it says shipped sent two hours after I replied to fonzies meme asking for it.

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    Another day with nothing in my mailbox or any tracking number to speak of. Is anyone else still waiting on their copy of the game to arrive?

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    Brazil, last update 15/12 shipping from Las Vegas.
    But guys everytime in other packs I received among the years the package comes before the tracking, I've checked here and almost every package came after 15 days, and after a couple of days the site was actualized with the tracking code, the only exception was one of them that came thought FedEx and it was stopped there at time I had to call and talk to them. So let's wait a bit more shall we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    I wonder if some these issues are related to the 32x needing a dongle on the expansion bay of some genesis models that didnt have a sega-cd connected. Something to do with grounding pins?
    https://www.reddit.com/r/gamecollect...ysterious_32x/
    It has been discussed in the previous pages already.


    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    I just had a new thought. This game is supposed to be pushing the console to the limits both power and CPU wise. Some consoles might need capacitor replacement as they were marginal before, but now are being pushed hard. My CDX started to randomly freeze and reboot on me a few years ago. And even with a new retro duo power supply it still happened. Installed a new set of caps and it has been rock solid ever since. Did a recap of my brothers 32x after it stopped working. Even bought and installed brand new ribbon cables with no change. New set of caps and now it works like new. You have to figure the original hardware is over 25 years old now. Far past the hours the components for designed to work for.
    Maybe an explanation for random freezes in some cases but hardly an explanation for most of the issues which are consoles freezing at the copyright screen.
    Especially when you consider that some of the same consoles have been proved to run the game fine once connected to a Sega CD.

    Also, we still don't know exactly how much power does a Paprium cart consume. But if I had to guess, despite all the extra stuff, it will not consume more than the original Virtua Racing cart; which seem to dissipate quite some power. Modern components are far more efficient in that regard.
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