Appreciation for Lin Kuei's mortal Kombat improvements

[NeoVamp]

(mine is Asia/PAL Mega Drive II VA 1.0)

Mine is a Euro/PAL Mega Drive 1 with TMSS with a language/hz switch, and when running the game at 60hz the problems arise.
I just played a bit with the switch set to 50hz and the backgrounds (especially the Pit) seemed to behave much less problematic.

Didn't play long enough to know if the controls messing up happened there, will try to play through it on 50hz to the end in a bit.

Also, I think I know what you mean about Sub-Zero's hand, its hard to tell on crt but the hand that's pointed forward does seem to be glitching between 2 tiles. (or is it supposed to be moving?)

but yeah, definitely a 50/60hz issue for the other problems.

Edit, played some more and here's what I found out.

1. Sub-Zero's fist is indeed flickering between 2 tiles.
2. When you lose a fight and you get the zooming in continue screen there's a glitch going on at the left of the blue continue box. (happens only in 60hz)
3. The Pit behaves muuuuch better under 50hz, I only spotted one temporary little white spot at the start of each match. (on the right above the 2nd fighter)
4. Controls reverting back to the 3 button layout happens under both 50hz and 60hz.
5. Johnny Cage can not do his nut punch anymore, doesn't matter if you're playing at 50 or 60hz.

[LinkueiBR]

I'm glad that you guys liked my Mortal Kombat project!!!

Let's anwer some feedbacks:

Some bugs I've found while playing the game on real hardware with a Mega Everdrive.

1. The Pit stage seems to make the game a bit laggy, with occasional white artifacts appearing briefly onscreen.

2. Sometimes the controls switch back to the 3 button one, only to go back to 6 buttons the next round. (random, doesn't seem linked to a certain stage) (could be related to my wireless gamepad, need to hear from others on real hardware)

3. How do you do Johnny Cage's crotch punch? block+lp does not work.

4. During the fight with Shang Tsung he morphed into Goro, but I kicked him during morph and Goro ended up lower on the screen.

1. The Pit is laggy and even these artifacts existed on the original version. It occurs during vertical scroll/camera shake.
In my hack is a bit more laggy since i reduced a bit the sprite buffer size to free some tiles in VRAM to add more details to the bkg (bodies in the spikes). Those artifacts visible in the original game:


2. We (MKAE TEAM) never got this bug with the official 6B or the official retro-bit controllers.
Just avoid 3rd party 6B controllers (Ascii and 8bitdo that i know) since they are a problem for MK1. My ASCII Fighter Stick, for example, only detects as a 3B.
Try to use official 6B SEGA controllers or at least clones like the Hyperkin 6B or Retro-Bit Classic 6B that works perfectly.

3. Just like in the original Mega Drive version: DOWN+HK:

*(ouch)*

4. This is a bug present in the original Mega Drive version. Goro and Shang Tsung are a real problem for this engine. lol

5. Yeah, Sub-Zero has a weird hand problem. This occurs cause the spritemap use a tile from a frame from the stance... Need to fix that.

Thanks all of you for the feedback and keep playing MK AE!!!

[Allard]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to NeoVamp again.

I hate it when that happens.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to LinkueiBR again.

Oh, come on!

[Pyron]

Mine is a Euro/PAL Mega Drive 1 with TMSS with a language/hz switch, and when running the game at 60hz the problems arise.
I just played a bit with the switch set to 50hz and the backgrounds (especially the Pit) seemed to behave much less problematic.

Didn't play long enough to know if the controls messing up happened there, will try to play through it on 50hz to the end in a bit.

Also, I think I know what you mean about Sub-Zero's hand, its hard to tell on crt but the hand that's pointed forward does seem to be glitching between 2 tiles. (or is it supposed to be moving?)

but yeah, definitely a 50/60hz issue for the other problems.

Edit, played some more and here's what I found out.

1. Sub-Zero's fist is indeed flickering between 2 tiles.
2. When you lose a fight and you get the zooming in continue screen there's a glitch going on at the left of the blue continue box. (happens only in 60hz)
3. The Pit behaves muuuuch better under 50hz, I only spotted one temporary little white spot at the start of each match. (on the right above the 2nd fighter)
4. Controls reverting back to the 3 button layout happens under both 50hz and 60hz.
5. Johnny Cage can not do his nut punch anymore, doesn't matter if you're playing at 50 or 60hz.

MD JP model 1 with TMSS VA5
The 60hz could really be a problem since in 50hz you have an extra band switch.

all stages the performance floats but on the pit is the worst one

[chinitosoccer]

This suffers from constant crashes when playing from a Mega everdrive Pro, tested it on various sega Genesis models and JP model 1 Megadrives.

[Allard]

@LinkueiBR:
Maybe the Sega CD Sub-Zero sprites could be used as a jumping off point?

This suffers from constant crashes when playing from a Mega everdrive Pro, tested it on various sega Genesis models and JP model 1 Megadrives.

Did you play version 1.0 or 1.0a? 1.0a fixed a lot of crashes.

[chinitosoccer]

1.0, didn't knew a 1,0a existed already, played it to the end, 1cc'd it with Scorpion without any issues, Megdrive JP model 1 va1, original Kirkzz Mega Everdrive PRO fw ver. 4.13

[Vludi]

Arcade ost when

[Beastech]

Mega SG/Mega Everdrive Pro/CRT TV

Runs great! Felt a little slow during Goro fight and in the PIT, but the trade-off is worth it. Truly outstanding! Looking forward to your future works!

[sjorspion]

What an effort! Amazing Hack!

[chinitosoccer]

Is this hack going to get updates??
If affirmative here go some suggestions/bugs I have found.

You can't do a sweep kick then grab like in the arcade, it seems that the fighters get up too quickly, although I don't know how to perform a grab in the MD, in the arcade you had to input forward-low punch but this doesn't seem to work here

On the bonus stage, shouldn't be possible to replace the "tada-daaa!" sound with the clapping/cheereing from the arcade? also in the arcade the fighters keep their hand raised for a second before smashing the brick, that adds to the momentum IMO.

The following may require heavy modification to the original code so it may be too much to ask, but shouldn't be possble to port the SEGACD sprites and extra frames of animation to the MD game?? Sub-zero standing animation look a bit choppy?
Also how feassible would be to add extra planes of parallax scroll to the clouds on the palace gates stage? "round 1 FIGHT!" zooming in and out from the beta version of MK MD??

[Stifu]

The following may require heavy modification to the original code so it may be too much to ask, but shouldn't be possble to port the SEGACD sprites and extra frames of animation to the MD game??

Not what you asked for, but you may be interested in this: https://youtu.be/yALzSPWyXD4
No idea if this will result in a real project or not.

[chinitosoccer]

Those are the arcade? sprites, those are made to fit a 412x256 screen resolution, they have to be resized to fit into the MD port, shouldn't be easier to port over from the SCD which runs at the same res of 320x224??

[Stifu]

Those are the arcade? sprites, those are made to fit a 412x256 screen resolution, they have to be resized to fit into the MD port, shouldn't be easier to port over from the SCD which runs at the same res of 320x224??

Not if you simply want a game with huge characters, à la Art of Fighting. They don't have to mimic the arcade, they can do their own thing. I think that's the point of this test.

[Allard]

Is this hack going to get updates??
If affirmative here go some suggestions/bugs I have found.

You can't do a sweep kick then grab like in the arcade, it seems that the fighters get up too quickly, although I don't know how to perform a grab in the MD, in the arcade you had to input forward-low punch but this doesn't seem to work here

Forward + High Kick to do a grab in the MD version.