Sonic 2 sales

[Aarzak]

A lot of people say that, but I don't remember 32x being much competition. I always thought Sega's big game that Christmas was Sonic & Knuckles. I don't even remember any ads for Star Wars Arcade, whereas S&K had that memorable commercial with the elves that was aired ad nauseum.

Yup, it was "Sonic & Knuckles" on the mainstream front, but in Sega's eyes it was playing second fiddle to the 32X. I also think that they realized that it'd be difficult to push a game such as "Sonic & Knuckles", which is the second half of what was supposed to be one game and a pretty bare-bones game by itself, as their big Christmas game as gamers (who weren't in the know) would've had to buy both S3 & S&K to get the full experience, which back then surely would've cost more than DKC. Sega got SPANKED that Christmas season, though the Genesis and S&K still sold decently. I think S&K by itself hit 2 Million.

[jesus.arnold]

The European Sonic 2 numbers are BS

I knew it http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...s-1503374.html Sonic 2 sold "around a million" in less than a year in the UK alone it only took me months of searching to find it

[Da_Shocker]

Yeah looking at the Top 10 selling game for the SNES and Genesis, Sonic 2 would come in at number 5 on the SNES list.


* Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (6 million)[86]
* Sonic the Hedgehog (4 million)[87]
* Aladdin (4 million)[88]
* NBA Jam (1.93 million in US)[19]
* Mortal Kombat 2 (1.78 million in US)[19]
* Street Fighter II: Special Champion Edition (1.65 million)[45]
* Sonic & Knuckles (1.24 million in US)[19]
* Mortal Kombat 3 (1.02 million in US)[19]
* Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (1.02 million in US)[19]

The US really carried this system while it bombed out in Japan. 4 of the Top 9 selling Genesis games are US bred. But where are the sports game at? NBA Jam outsold the likes of Madden, NBA Live, and Joe Montana's?

[jesus.arnold]

Yeah looking at the Top 10 selling game for the SNES and Genesis, Sonic 2 would come in at number 5 on the SNES list.

The US really carried this system while it bombed out in Japan. 4 of the Top 9 selling Genesis games are US bred. But where are the sports game at? NBA Jam outsold the likes of Madden, NBA Live, and Joe Montana's?

Except for the fact that as I've just proved the European Sega numbers written on that site are a joke, they're literally worthless

If the independent newspaper, one of the most respected (ie boring) newspapers in the UK says that Sonic 2 sold around a million in less than a year in the UK then that is a fact, so

VGChartz numbers for Europe are 1.3 million

Sonic 2 sold ~1,000,000 in the UK up until November 93

That leaves .3 of a million for the leftover time period in the UK and the entirety of the rest of Europe.

I don't think it's unreasonable to say that the European number is too low by at least another million, in fact the game could quite easily have sold 1.3 million in the UK alone when taking into account the time after the newspaper article was published (note the all format top 10 at the bottom of the article I linked to, Sonic 2 is still in the UK sales charts at this time at 3, and wasn't it made into a pack in title eventually?)

[SuperMonacoGP]

I think in Europe the Mega Drive was a lot bigger than the Snes, I think the Snes outdid the Mega Drive in America but in the Europe i'm sure more people had a MD than a Snes, especially in the UK. I think those sales figures for Sonic 2 must be underdone, There was loads of Sonic 2 games sold in the UK alone, I bet there was a lot more sold all over Europe and in the U.S too.

[SuperMonacoGP]

Yeah looking at the Top 10 selling game for the SNES and Genesis, Sonic 2 would come in at number 5 on the SNES list.


* Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (6 million)[86]
* Sonic the Hedgehog (4 million)[87]
* Aladdin (4 million)[88]
* NBA Jam (1.93 million in US)[19]
* Mortal Kombat 2 (1.78 million in US)[19]
* Street Fighter II: Special Champion Edition (1.65 million)[45]
* Sonic & Knuckles (1.24 million in US)[19]
* Mortal Kombat 3 (1.02 million in US)[19]
* Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (1.02 million in US)[19]

The US really carried this system while it bombed out in Japan. 4 of the Top 9 selling Genesis games are US bred. But where are the sports game at? NBA Jam outsold the likes of Madden, NBA Live, and Joe Montana's?

What about NHL hockey too? NHL hockey on the Mega Drive was such a good game, me and my uncle had many hours on that game, I think it's still brilliant even today.

[jesus.arnold]

VGChartz doesn't seem to have any numbers for Earthworm Jim at all, I don't know about the US but here in the UK that was a pretty massive game on Mega Drive.

Street Fighter II Champion Edition's Europe numbers are BS too.

Like I said earlier, the sales numbers on VGChartz are worthless and certainly shouldn't be taken seriously.

[SuperMonacoGP]

VGChartz doesn't seem to have any numbers for Earthworm Jim at all, I don't know about the US but here in the UK that was a pretty massive game on Mega Drive.

Street Fighter II Champion Edition's Europe numbers are BS too.

Like I said earlier, the sales numbers on VGChartz are worthless and certainly shouldn't be taken seriously at all.

Agreed! Earthworm Jim was a big hit over here and rightly so. What about Toejam and Earl too.. Surely that sold a million or more units worldwide!? That game was epicness, it goes on e-bay now for about £10+

[Puffy2k316]

VGChartz only has Japanese numbers pre-2000 or so (for individual games) so anything on an individual game might not be accurate.

http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6428&region=All

Look at the US and Japanese columns

[jesus.arnold]

VGChartz only has Japanese numbers pre-2000 or so (for individual games) so anything on an individual game might not be accurate.

http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6428&region=All

Look at the US and Japanese columns

Where do they get their numbers from? they look like very rough estimates to me, whilst I have a feeling Nintendo probably kept accurate sales figures of all their stuff.

Also I hate to sound like a broken record here but I very much doubt that Streets of Rage 2 wasn't a million seller, that game was easily one of the top 5 most popular Mega Drive games here so unless it was a massive failure everywhere else (which is highly doubtful) then that would need to go into the list too.

[Puffy2k316]

There's a very detailed week by week breakdown of video game sales in japan from like 90-94 somewhere on the internet. It came from an official source too. It used to be on Neogaf but it got taken down because the guy that provided it got banned or some shit.

[jesus.arnold]

There's a very detailed week by week breakdown of video game sales in japan from like 90-94 somewhere on the internet. It came from an official source too. It used to be on Neogaf but it got taken down because the guy that provided it got banned or some shit.

Oh ok, that really is too bad for the MD seeing as the only place accurate sales figures are available for it is also the place where it was least popular

Also I notice that i'm talking about a different list (my fault) I was looking at this one

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?...er=&sort=Total

Whilst many others were looking at this one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_se...complatinum-44

[Aarzak]

Whoa, SoR1 sold 2.6+million copies worldwide??? I honestly wouldn't have figured. A grand majority of those were U.S sales. I didn't know the game was THAT popular. I figured that SoR2 would've been the one in the series to break a million copies, but it didn't even do that.

All five of Midway's early-to-mid '90's arcade blockbusters (the MK trilogy, NBA Jam & Jam T.E) sold at least a million copies on the Genesis. Impressive. Hard to believe so many people lapped up copies of that horrible port of MK1 (3rd best-selling Genesis game at 2.67 million copies sold)

Lion King.......surprised to see that up there. Then again Sega did bundle it in with the Genny 2 at one point.

[Da_Shocker]

Why are we having such a hard time with these sales figures? One thing that seems to be a given is that Sonic was the only Sega made game that moved alot of units for the Genesis. No Sonic for the Saturn not to many units moved. Sonic Adventure was the best selling DC game with 2.5 million units sold.

Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games Wii 3.4 million
Sonic Advance (1.515 million approximately: 1.21 million in US,[19] 204,542 in Japan, [74] 100,000 in UK)
Sonic Advance 2 (1.016 million approximately: 740,000 in US,[80], 176,451 in Japan, [74] 100,000 in UK
Sonic the Hedgehog (8 million)
ESPN NFL 2K5 (1.38 million in US)
NFL 2K (1.13 million in the US)[19]
NFL 2K1 (1.01 million in the US)[19]
Virtua Fighter 2 (1.7 million in Japan)

This shows how the public really doesn't care about Sega outside of Sonic.

[jesus.arnold]

Why are we having such a hard time with these sales figures? One thing that seems to be a given is that Sonic was the only Sega made game that moved alot of units for the Genesis.

We're having a "hard time" with them because they are ludicrous, and easily disproved. The Mega Drive must've had stacks of million sellers on it, what about the license games such as Spider-Man Vs the Kingpin? just the license alone would've carried it to relatively high sales even without taking into account that it was a great game.

And there is no way in hell that Streets or Rage outsold Streets of Rage 2 either.