The U.S. Election

[j_factor]

I must say that eventhough I cannot agree on many things of American politics, and eventhough for me voting Republicans will always seem absurd, that this thread has shown me that people actually do think about politics in the US; I always thought waving flags and foam fingers and wearing big red-white-and blue hats was as far as political thoughtfulness goes in the US, but you have proven me wrong!

I hate to contradict the defeat of a stereotype, but in all honesty, for a large number of Americans you were correct.

[Rusty Venture]

I'm afraid I have to agree that the American masses are just as bad as you think Mr. Jordan Capri lovah.

[Dirt Ball Gamer]

My buddy has a red white n blue hat! Im always trying to talk him into wearing it in to these meetings we have to go to for our work because everyone dresses very profesionally. He's got patriot fever. THEAS COLOURS DO NOT RUN!!!

[j_factor]

My buddy has a red white n blue hat! Im always trying to talk him into wearing it in to these meetings we have to go to for our work because everyone dresses very profesionally. He's got patriot fever. THEAS COLOURS DO NOT RUN!!!

In this great nation it is spelled "COLORS", you unpatriotic traitor.

[Joe Redifer]

[esb09]

Awesome poster.

[InternalPrimate]

I must say that eventhough I cannot agree on many things of American politics, and eventhough for me voting Republicans will always seem absurd, that this thread has shown me that people actually do think about politics in the US; I always thought waving flags and foam fingers and wearing big red-white-and blue hats was as far as political thoughtfulness goes in the US, but you have proven me wrong!

Thx, and if you ever decide to become a colony again just call me! :P

There isn't anything wrong with loving one's country, it's just that "being a patriot" has certainly changed in meaning since 9/11. Apparently all I have to do is buy a "Support the Troops" bumper-sticker and say "if you don't like it, then you can get out!" whenever someone has a criticism.

The greatest threat to nationalism is the truth. But an informed nation can choose better leaders, who can lead to a more respectable nation, which leads to a higher national identity, which equates to nationalism! The circle of life

I don't think you were completely wrong in your original assumption. I think the 2004 re-election of Bush supports your assumption. But not all of us are uninformed, we're just the one's who are attacked for being unpatriotic.

In a post 9/11 United States, wanting to improve one's nation is seen as not loving one's country. Silly, isn't it?

[Rusty Venture]

Good and bad (sometimes ugly) I love this country and I want better things for it.

But I do recall having the "unpatriotic" name flung around because I didn't blindly follow dumbass and his invasion of Iraq.

I love this the natural beauty of this country, and even some of the people. What I don't love is a government that treats people like idiots and keeps them in the dark and in a constant crisis mode so they can get away with shit.

[TheEdge]

Our government is Rogue and has enslaved us with reality shows, income tax, and dumbing down our primary education.

Books to read: Brave New World, 1984

"There will one day be an enemy that cannot be seen, cannot be defeated, and this effige will be used to strip the last freedoms from the world while looting the treasures of the land."

[Iron Lizard]

Don't forgot prescription medicine and 60 hour work weeks.

Edge have you read WE?

[TheEdge]

Whats WE?

[Iron Lizard]

Its a book. Required college reading. Here is the obligatory wiki link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_(novel)

Basically it's along the lines of 1984 but it was written in 1921.

[InternalPrimate]

Our government is Rogue and has inslaved us with reality shows, income tax, and dumbing down our primary education.

Reality shows?

[TheEdge]

Well, the reason I bring that up and I should have explained it better but TV and Motion Pictures has conditioned all of us to not only look up to idiots BUT to act like them (Monkey See, Monkey Do).

One of my professors told me that people in the 14-1600's used to strive to be geniuses, now they strive to be idiots.

Also I fear that this will be the drama queen generation with all these reality shows where every little thing turns into a dramatic confrontation based on emotions alone instead of logic and rationalism.

Deliberatedumbingdown.com

[Jesse813]

Mr. Smith

I'll give you my vote. can you make at least 1 of the Raul Julia Statues taller than the Statue of Liberty or Eifel Tower? whichever 1 is taller.