The U.S. Election

**TheEdge** · 10-10-2008, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Rusty Venture

That fact you are a registered *anything* bothers me.

I was going to say a bunch of other stuff about other things but honestly, this subject has got too serious. Most importantly, this subject has gotten too repetitive.

I'm bailing, mostly because political talk is boring.

I don't understand the hostility. I'm bailing also.

Did you read the new article before you bail out for good?

http://loudobbs.tv.cnn.com/2008/10/1...d-voter-fraud/

Group Tied to Widespread Voter Fraud
Updated October 10th, 2008

The community activist group ACORN is facing a barrage of serious charges of voter fraud and electoral tampering. Five states have opened investigations into the legality of its voter registration drives, and some of ACORN’s employees have actually been convicted of voter fraud. The community group has said it has done nothing wrong, and the Obama campaign has denied any links to ACORN, but both claims are proving to be untrue. Now House Republicans are calling for all federal funding to ACORN to be cut off. Problem is, no one even has a handle on how much federal money ACORN is getting.

Comments? Questions?

**Joe Redifer** · 10-10-2008, 10:23 PM

That link doesn't seem to work very well.

**esb09** · 10-10-2008, 10:34 PM

Lou Dobbs? RLY?

**j_factor** · 10-11-2008, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by TheEdge

I don't know if I can help you. I'm sorry only you can break the conditioning. Read the articles and trace it back from the beginning of his political career and you will find out who Obama really is. I have posted more than enough links and information to back up my points yet all the rebuttals I am getting are name calling I.E. "Crackpots" ", "Lunatic Fringe", and "Racists".

I believe there was a lot more to my post than the phrase "lunatic fringe". That is not all you're getting. Please read entire posts.

So if your not going to read the links I have posted and attempt in somewhat of an adult way to counter them with other empirical data I will have to ignore your posts.

I did read the links you posted. I wonder if you read the entirety of the articles you posted. Because now you're repeating: "OBAMA TO MAINE: DROP DEAD", which, as I stated earlier, and as you would realize if you read the full article, is inaccurate.

Here are the questions I have backed up with facts. If you can disprove them by using sources, I will look over your documentation and comment on it without using the words like "crazy" or "conspiracy nut".

There is nothing to "disprove". You mentioned his connection with Ayers. I'm not disputing that he has a connection with Ayers. What I'm disputing is the idea that his connection with Ayers is relevant. You have not backed up that notion with anything.

You also posted some quote from Obama about energy conservation that you took umbrage to. Again, there is nothing for me to disprove, as I do not dispute that he said those words. I merely dispute your grounds for finding his words objectionable. This thread doesn't need to be a link war. I don't need to post a link to state a point.

**TheEdge** · 10-12-2008, 02:15 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SrtyFY6qTA

Webster Tarpley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYWk-xoNLng

**Dirt Ball Gamer** · 10-13-2008, 02:38 AM

Would like to get people's opinion on a pretty interesting documentary I watched recently. Go to Google video and type in Zeitgeist addendum.

**Iron Lizard** · 10-13-2008, 04:02 AM

Its interesting. Not sure if I believe it all, the comparison with Bush and Hitler are bit much but items like the Amero are a bit terrifying.

**j_factor** · 10-13-2008, 04:33 AM

Like the original, there is some good information in Zeitgeist Addendum, but nothing that isn't available from better sources. But it can be okay as a starting point, if you watch it and then go out and do some good reading (and viewing of better documentaries).

**Dirt Ball Gamer** · 10-13-2008, 04:59 AM

Yeah totally, i mean its just a documentary about a very very broad and complex subject, so its just a small perspective and not a whole truth at all. I try to stay up to date with what is happening in the world and to read various books which are way better at giving specific facts which is all I really use to base my views on anyway. There's infinite ways to interpret anything so I like to keep an open mind and not just be all one side or the other on issues. If you have any good recommendations of books or documentaries I would love to hear them

**Dirt Ball Gamer** · 10-13-2008, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by Iron Lizard

Its interesting. Not sure if I believe it all, the comparison with Bush and Hitler are bit much but items like the Amero are a bit terrifying.

I think you may have watched the first one, I was talking about the new one called Zeitgeist Addendum

**TheEdge** · 10-13-2008, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Dirt Ball Gamer

Would like to get people's opinion on a pretty interesting documentary I watched recently. Go to Google video and type in Zeitgeist addendum.

Great movies, Zeitgeist 1-2 rock. Great information in there. I applaud all independent movies / Documentaries that expose hidden and untold history. I wish more media was made like this to wake people up.

Check out these other Documentaries

TerrorStorm
Beyond Treason
Washington your fired
JFK II: The Bush Connection
American Drug War
EndGame
Century of the Self
Shadows in Motion
America Freedom to Fascism
Iraq for Sale
Occupation 101
No end in Sight
Evidence of Revision
Money Masters
Fiat Empire
Creature from Jekyll Island
Taxi to the Dark Side

**Joe Redifer** · 10-13-2008, 12:26 PM

I applaud all independent movies / Documentaries that expose hidden and untold history. I wish more media was made like this to wake people up.

Yes, because all documentaries are true and present all the facts. Honestly though, I tend to avoid them because they are made with the conspiracy theory nut in mind.

Freedom to Fascism is such bullshit. Extremist right wing propaganda. I am glad the fucker who made it is dead. It is a movie about not paying income taxes. Of course the documentary wasn't made until well after the maker got busted for... you guessed it... not paying income taxes. He is just trying to justify his uselessness. That's like Christopher Reeve not giving a shit about paraplegics until he became one, that asshole.

**TheEdge** · 10-13-2008, 12:32 PM

Yeah! Your right! Dam' Dem Conspiracy Crazies! They are probably wit Al-qaeda!. Let get' dem before they speak em with those big words!

(Grabs pitchfork and torch)

Come on boy we be going to get em conspiracy nut tonight!! Huyuck Hyuck!!

**Joe Redifer** · 10-13-2008, 12:34 PM

Spoken like a true conspiracy nut. Use logic, not harsh editing and scary music.

**TheEdge** · 10-13-2008, 12:36 PM

Yea! you's be right! Everyone is a conspiracy crazy cause the Television told me dem was. I believe the TV and all the pretty people in da box. I likem them smile at me when I turn it on. They protect me from a da terrorist. I wish I was a soldier maybe I can hunt the al-qaeda's.

But seriously, I guess I have to respect your opinion. I understand were your coming from. He was in trouble with the IRS before making Freedom to Fascism. I think he mentioned that in the film so he may have had an axe to grind.

That still doesn't change the fact that the Income Tax is illegal and takes 33% of our income a year to give to the privately run Federal Reserve. Remember they print our money for us at interest instead of us (Meaning the US governemnt) printing it ourselves interest FREE.

Income Tax + Inflation = Economic Slavery

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