Sonic & Knuckles clamshell case project

[HappehLemons]

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8...ndknuckles.jpg

I just threw this together real quick, I think it looks pretty close to the original box art. Hopefully this one will be good enough for now. It's a mishmash between djshok, tiktektak(font) and Hexxxer(art in center of box) work on TCP.

[djshok]

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8...ndknuckles.jpg

I just threw this together real quick, I think it looks pretty close to the original box art. Hopefully this one will be good enough for now.

Umm not to be a dickhole, but if by "threw together real quick" you mean you downloaded the cover I made and posted the The Cover Project a few months ago, then yes. The only change you made was you swapped the logo on the front for a lower-res one than what I used. I'm glad you like the cover and all, but don't make it sound like you made the whole thing in a minute...

Also, you shouldn't upload ready-to-print images to imageshack - it lowers the resolution and resizes the image so it's not 300dpi anymore. You instead end up with a very large (and wrong sized image) at 72dpi.

[djshok]

For anyone interested, here is the original version I put together, formatted for Universal Game Case (UGC) and standard Sega clamshell.



UGC cover: http://www.box.net/shared/z9n1mm0a3j
Sega clamshell cover: http://www.box.net/shared/5201f0nxtn

[HappehLemons]

Umm not to be a dickhole, but if by "threw together real quick" you mean you downloaded the cover I made and posted the The Cover Project a few months ago, then yes. The only change you made was you swapped the logo on the front for a lower-res one than what I used. I'm glad you like the cover and all, but don't make it sound like you made the whole thing in a minute...

Also, you shouldn't upload ready-to-print images to imageshack - it lowers the resolution and resizes the image so it's not 300dpi anymore. You instead end up with a very large (and wrong sized image) at 72dpi.

I thought it was pretty obvious that I used the one from TCP, hence the "threw it together real quick". I'm pretty sure no one thought I scanned in my box and vectored everything. To be honest I didn't even know it TCP showed the name of who uploaded what box art until I just checked now. I'll edit my post and put the names of the people who's covers I used to make one. I didn't mean to take credit for your work.


Anyway, I made the change to yours because it wasn't accurate to the way the original box art looked and didn't just swap them with "lower res images"? The font for S&K and the image in the center of the box aren't the same as the original on your box art, which is why I assumed people were asking for one and not just using the one you had posted on TCP.

[djshok]

Ahh ok, it's just a misunderstanding, so no worries. I just really thought you were saying that you managed to throw the whole thing together like it was nothing. You know how it is, some people like to pull that sort of thing to make themselves sound awesome or whatever.

[HappehLemons]

Ahh ok, it's just a misunderstanding, so no worries. I just really thought you were saying that you managed to throw the whole thing together like it was nothing. You know how it is, some people like to pull that sort of thing to make themselves sound awesome or whatever.

No problem dude, in all honestly I should to checked harder to see who made the original box art and had it there the first place. Sorry about that.

Anyway, when I compared the one I had on imageshack to the UGC one you posted they were the same resolution? DPI ≠ Resolution? I don't really know what DPI means so could you clear this up for me?

[djshok]

Sure thing. DPI is dots per inch, the term comes from inkjet printers that print images using actual ink dots (think of how an old comic book looks) it doesn't really affect how things look on screen so much as how they do when printed (on screen a higher DPI image will just look bigger). The higher the DPI the nicer/sharper the printed image looks, this is true with all printers. Which is why TCP has that strict 300 DPI rule for all the covers there. Standard DPI for online images that aren't meant to be printed is 72. The issue with uploading 300 DPI images to most image hosting sites is that they're really just meant for hotlinking, so by default they resize your image to 72 DPI, the problem is a 300 DPI image is much larger so what ends up happening is you lose your formatting and when you try to print the image it ends up being too large to fit on a page.

The relationship between DPI and resolution is a little awkward to imagine because computer monitors don't display in DPI, they do in pixels. So what ends up happening is a high DPI image is also high res because it is made up of more pixels. Then when you resize it to say something like 6.7" x 10.2" and print it, all that detail gets crammed into a small space making the image look nice and sharp.

[HappehLemons]

Sure thing. DPI is dots per inch, the term comes from inkjet printers that print images using actual ink dots (think of how an old comic book looks) it doesn't really affect how things look on screen so much as how they do when printed (on screen a higher DPI image will just look bigger). The higher the DPI the nicer/sharper the printed image looks, this is true with all printers. Which is why TCP has that strict 300 DPI rule for all the covers there. Standard DPI for online images that aren't meant to be printed is 72. The issue with uploading 300 DPI images to most image hosting sites is that they're really just meant for hotlinking, so by default they resize your image to 72 DPI, the problem is a 300 DPI image is much larger so what ends up happening is you lose your formatting and when you try to print the image it ends up being too large to fit on a page.

The relationship between DPI and resolution is a little awkward to imagine because computer monitors don't display in DPI, they do in pixels. So what ends up happening is a high DPI image is also high res because it is made up of more pixels. Then when you resize it to say something like 6.7" x 10.2" and print it, all that detail gets crammed into a small space making the image look nice and sharp.

I think I understand why I was confused. Are you going by the thumbnail resolution? (800x499) Because if you actually click on it the image is 3366x2100 (which is the original DPI as the source image?). I don't think imageshack resized that image at all.

[Tor Landeel]

Do anyone happen to have (or want to make) a PAL version of the cover? I would love to replace the hated paper box -_-
While I like a lot the art of djshok's cover, I'd prefer the original one!

[Sparksterz]

So, as more of a general question can I print these out in decent quality on a standard ink jet printer on cardstock or will it end up looking like crap? I've gotten to the point where I want to start printing some of these amazing inserts!

[djshok]

I think I understand why I was confused. Are you going by the thumbnail resolution? (800x499) Because if you actually click on it the image is 3366x2100 (which is the original DPI as the source image?). I don't think imageshack resized that image at all.

No no, it's not just the preview, imageshack actually used to shrink down the images it also made them blurrier due to some compression they used. They don't seem to do that anymore since they implemented the semi-mandatory registration and updated the site. So your upload is all good.

Do anyone happen to have (or want to make) a PAL version of the cover? I would love to replace the hated paper box -_-
While I like a lot the art of djshok's cover, I'd prefer the original one!

I could convert it to MD format, only problem is gonna be the images on the back that show Genesis carts being locked onto the S&K cart. Not sure how you feel about that.

So, as more of a general question can I print these out in decent quality on a standard ink jet printer on cardstock or will it end up looking like crap? I've gotten to the point where I want to start printing some of these amazing inserts!

That depends on your printer, there are some really high quality ink jets out there, and some crappy ones as well. Give it a try and see if it works. Also, I'd suggest printing on 8.5x14 pages since these covers typically don't fit on 8.5x11. I heard someone mention on here that with inkjet printers you can print a little further outside the margin than with a laser printer, and that they might fit on 8.5x11, but I can't confirm that. Give it a try if you have the ink to spare, if not, go with the larger page just to be safe.

[Tasuke]

i FINALLY unearthed my original S&K cardboard, and just finished fitting it
to the modded clamshell i made a month or so back;









it ain't perfect, it wouldn't pass as an off the shelf copy under close scrutiny, but it's certainly good enough for me!!

[Sparksterz]

Tasuke, what are you talking about? It looks awesome!

[potsi78]

This thread is pure win

Been meaning to pick up a copy of S&K and sure as hell, can only find loose copies.

Luckily I have an old box at hand for this, although I'll have to try and manufacture a new sleeve for it since the old one is MIA

[Tasuke]

Tasuke, what are you talking about? It looks awesome!

thanks, that's good to know.

it had been under my skin for a long time, not being able to display my S&K alongside my other SONIC titles.
it all looks so damned complete on my shelf now, all i need is to replace my RANGER-X
with it's japanese original, "EX-RANZA, and obtain copies of the BATMAN game based off the 1989 movie
and a copy of RAMBO III, in order to pretty much restore my Genny collection to it's original lineup,
before i had traded several titles off in the early 1990's...