Nintendo Wii's VC

[Puffy2k316]

You won't see any Dreamcast or CD games on the VC unless Nintendo decides to let you play the games off the SD cards. VC sucks regardless. The Wii sucks too. Just thought I'd throw that in there.

I don't know why, but I always felt 90-95 were the best years of video games. In the early 90's you had Sega and Nintendo in a full on war for the best licenses and exclusive games which created all kinds of crazy stuff like Robocop vs. The Terminator and Michael Jackson's Moonwalker. Then, about 93 or so, we had a huge influx of more competing console formats than ever before or since: NES (died in 93, but whatever), SNES, Genesis, Sega CD, 32X, Playstation, Saturn, Jaguar, Neo Geo, 3DO, TurboGrafx-16 and Turbo Duo, CD-i, LaserActive, and probably another one or two I'm forgetting. While many of these died off with little left behind, it was the last time I remember seeing video games really change. I remember it being a very exciting time seeing all the new technology and what each system had to offer and just wondering what direction video games were going to go: FMV (pre-rendered backdrops or interactive movies), polygons, hi-res 2D, etc. I was 10 at the time and had a subscription to GamePro (which ROCKED back then, don't know how it is now) so I didn't really have anything else to do but gaze at all the new games and systems hoping to one day be able to play them at a store display or even get one for christmas. Ever since the PSX/N64 era, all that has really changed is the polygon count and texture clarity, that's about it, but back then some revolutionary shit was happening. Anyone who remembers Spectre damn well appreciates how far 3D has come.

Oh, and the 7800 technically competed with the NES, so it really wasn't before your time

I cosign this post. You also forgot to mention that was the explosion of fighting games and the reinvention of arcades. Best time to be a gamer imo.

In contrast, 96-99 was the worst time to be a gamer. All of those early 3d games looked and played like ass.

[MrMatthews]

In contrast, 96-99 was the worst time to be a gamer. All of those early 3d games looked and played like ass.

I'll agree to a certain extent. Going 3D pretty much reset the industry back to the Atari 2600 days: it was essentially a brand-new format and developers were struggling to figure out how to use it properly. Most 16-but games looked better than most of those early 3D games.

[Joe Redifer]

There are several TurboGrafx-16 CD games already on the Wii VC.

[17daysolderthannes]

700MB behemoths? more like 4gig behemoths!

Most games are like.. 2 to 4 gigs.

Personally i just chucked a 500gb hd in both my xboxes.
but then again i have always preferred a hardmod (chip) which imo makes
swapping hd's much less of a hassle then it would be with a softmod.

And i didn't mention GBA because the emulation can be kinda slow sometimes,
its still a good emulator but not one i wanted to mention in a post dedicated
to how excellent the emulation can be on an xbox.

I was saying 700MB because I assumed they were compressed in some way when you uploaded them and generally movies I download *shhh* are about 700MB, but that probably has more to do with the size of a CD than the preferred compression of the movie. What does it take to swap a hard drive? mod chips aren't that terribly cheap from what I've seen. I mean, if I'm going to go that far, I'd just as soon get a used computer (for free possibly) and just use an S-Video out. The only reason I'm soft modding is because its of minimal cost (action replay+splinter cell, a little under $30) and it lets you play all the great emulators without the hassle of booting a computer and all the other nonsense. I just hope Krayzie's Ndure Installer 1.1 is as good as they say.

[FoxHound]

You won't see any Dreamcast or CD games on the VC unless Nintendo decides to let you play the games off the SD cards. VC sucks regardless.

In contrast, 96-99 was the worst time to be a gamer. All of those early 3d games looked and played like ass.

I thought it was possible to put VC games on SD cards now...not normal cards but say the Sandisk version for Wii.

Also 96-99 wasnt all that bad, what games did you play? mario 64 , starfox 64 were great and Zeldas were just awesome. My N64 got me through those days. Playstation was only Resident Evils and Need for speeds.. for me

[Puffy2k316]

I thought it was possible to put VC games on SD cards now...not normal cards but say the Sandisk version for Wii.

Also 96-99 wasnt all that bad, what games did you play? mario 64 , starfox 64 were great and Zeldas were just awesome. My N64 got me through those days. Playstation was only Resident Evils and Need for speeds.. for me

I'm not saying there weren't good games, you're bound to find good games in every gen but when you compare it to 90-95 it was a huge downturn. You essentially went from having literally dozens of consoles to choose from to 2. The SNES went from pumping out it's best games in 95 to slowing down in 96 to being completely nonexistent in 97. Arcades started declining etc. It just wasn't a good time when compared to the fruitful 90-95 era. It was more of a transition period then anything else.

And I don't know if you can use SD Cards for VC. I didn't know Turbographix-16 CD games were available either. They weren't there when I had a wii.

[17daysolderthannes]

I'm not saying there weren't good games, you're bound to find good games in every gen but when you compare it to 90-95 it was a huge downturn. You essentially went from having literally dozens of consoles to choose from to 2. The SNES went from pumping out it's best games in 95 to slowing down in 96 to being completely nonexistent in 97. Arcades started declining etc. It just wasn't a good time when compared to the fruitful 90-95 era. It was more of a transition period then anything else.

And I don't know if you can use SD Cards for VC. I didn't know Turbographix-16 CD games were available either. They weren't there when I had a wii.

you can use SD cards as a "backup" to archive your VC games once you run out of memory. I think alot of it has to do with people freaking out that they were buying all these games and one day the Wii server will go down and they'll lose whatever they can't fit forever. Another reason I'll stick to the real thing.

[InternalPrimate]

you can use SD cards as a "backup" to archive your VC games once you run out of memory. I think alot of it has to do with people freaking out that they were buying all these games and one day the Wii server will go down and they'll lose whatever they can't fit forever. Another reason I'll stick to the real thing.

I've always seen the Wii's storage problem as its second biggest shortcoming, the first being "friendcodes". Nintendo has announced a firmware update for the spring that would allow playing VC games straight from an SD card.

Why in the world it's taking them this long to do a simple firmware update is beyond me...

[NeoVamp]

I was saying 700MB because I assumed they were compressed in some way when you uploaded
them and generally movies I download *shhh* are about 700MB, but that probably has more to do with the size of a CD
than the preferred compression of the movie.
Movies can be compressed because they are just video and audio,
how would you compress data? you could zip it but then you can't run it.
but it is possible to rip out a lot of unnecessary stuff like demo's and stuff.

What does it take to swap a hard drive?
I can't speak for soft modded xboxes since both of mine are hard modded,
I just open the case take out the hd and put another one in,
then i ftp into the xbox by booting either a bootdisc or my modchip's built in ftp server (you get what you pay for!)
and then i add the dashboard files

mod chips aren't that terribly cheap from what I've seen.
I think mine were like 40 euro's a piece or something, I also got 2 of those nifty lcd fronts for it.

I mean, if I'm going to go that far, I'd just as soon get a used computer (for free possibly) and just use an S-Video out.
wouldn't be the same, i went there and didn't like it, (noisy and looked stupid)
it takes money and time to build a good media center,
you might as well buy one pre-made these days.

The only reason I'm soft modding is because its of minimal cost (action replay+splinter cell, a little under $30)
You could try to find someone close to where you live who could do it for you,
the xbox360 might reign supreme these days but there's still a lot of people who use the xbox1,
one might even help you out so you wont have to buy anything.

and it lets you play all the great emulators without the hassle of booting a computer and all the other nonsense.
And thats exactly why i like my xbox, not only does it let me play emulators but also xbox games (there are actually many good xbox games)
which you would not be able to play with a pc media center.

I just hope Krayzie's Ndure Installer 1.1 is as good as they say.
make sure to read up on faqs over at www.xbox-scene.com

Message too short? never!

[zetastrike]

Chaotix needs to be rereleased. VC would be perfect.

[17daysolderthannes]

Message too short? never!

of course not

I'm really insistent upon being able to do my own soft mod from scratch. That way, if anything ever happens and I need to redo it, I know how, I don't go "well, I'm SOL!" Also, I can do it for other people and make back the money I spent on the action replay, etc. I'm the same way with PSP custom firmware. I just bought a PSP with a broken UMD (but good shape otherwise, might even be fixeable) and custom firmware for $30, but I'm still going to learn how to make the magic memory stick just so I know in case I ever get it bricked.

[17daysolderthannes]

I did it, and for anyone that wants to try, I recommend this tutorial:

http://www.se7ensins.com/forums/xbox...r-1-1-1-a.html

now, does anyone know of a good site for emulators/homebrew/apps for a modded xbox? I've found a few, but its hard to know who has the newest versions and/or best emulators. Also, how do you install things? just connect with FTP and drag and drop the folders or what?

[MrMatthews]

Phantasy Star IV available on the VC today. That's the best one, isn't it?

[Ghaleon]

Phantasy Star IV available on the VC today. That's the best one, isn't it?

Yes, by far the best PS game on the Genesis.

[Rassilon]

Yes, by far the best PS game on the Genesis.

No. PS II is better, but IV is excellent as well.