Sega-16 Politics Thread

**Insert Coins** · 10-03-2009, 03:09 AM

Originally Posted by TheEdge

What's everyones views on the "Free" Market?

I for one don't believe one exists. People like Ron Paul and others believe the fiction that Free Markets exist when the main problem is deregulation of the markets. Free Markets are used to rob the poor and give only to the top 2% while destroying everything in its wake.

The main reason why we are in a depression right now is because of "Free" Markets and no regulation on speculative and parasitical business / wallstreet practices.

Capitalism, as we know it, isn't a form of individualism or free market at all. Think about it. Why do huge corporations like Mickey D's, Sony, Wal-Mart, etc. need competition? Capitalism is all about monopoly, but isn't that similar what the Bolsheviks did in the 1910's and 1920's with forced collectivization of the Pre-Soviet farms and businesses? A Free Market is about spliting up the economic control of the world into as many hands as possible.

So, a truly Free Market does not exist. Not at all. A Free Market really never taken place in any point in history. Capitalism does not exist.

So does that mean the Leninists, Trotskyists, Communists, etc. have been fighting against their very own ideology of collectivism?

I'll close with a classic Proudhon quote:

"Capitalism is the exploitation of the weak by the strong, and communism is the exploitation of the strong by the weak."

I wish I could quote Proudhon everyday.

**retrospiel** · 10-04-2009, 09:03 PM

I saw this incredible PBS documentary by Two Cats Productions yesterday and I wanted to share it with those interested. It covers some key elements and interesting theories on Anti-Semitism and manages to squeeze this behemoth into mere 60 minutes.

It's called Anti-Semitism in the 21st Century: The Resurgence

You can order the DVD here: http://www.twocatstv.com/anti-semitism/

or download the torrent here: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4809..._(EngAud_2007)

**TheEdge** · 10-05-2009, 11:39 AM

Do they explain why its coming back? or do they just dance around the US / Britain Wars and the Israeli Occupation and military subjugation of Palestine?

**retrospiel** · 10-06-2009, 05:52 AM

They do mention the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, but it's not that they focus on it.

They basically try to explain the difference between "normal" violence and actual Anti-Semitism and track its roots back to early Christianity.

It's really a fantastic documentary with an awesome amount of research crammed into a few minutes.

I do know from my own observations that what they say about the current situation in Europe is true: The synagogue a few streets from my flat gets vandalized every few weeks - despite regular police patrols.

**GriskaGyoran** · 10-06-2009, 07:04 AM

Where I go in Russia, jews are everywhere. This is even in the city. You don't like jew, then you probably will be hanging from a tree within a weeks time. So if a synagogue is vandalized over there, they will hunt, and they will find the culprit, even if they don't, somebody gets punished anyways. But in the US I see a bunch of this Neo-Nazi and white pride bs going on, where it came from, I don't care, but the government or some rogue group had better smash them. As for this normal violence I hear of. Nothing more than a common border conflict. They want the holy artifact/land so do the Muslims and Christians.

**TheEdge** · 10-06-2009, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Christuserloeser

They do mention the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, but it's not that they focus on it.

They don't focus on the main problem that's causing all the hostility......

ok.....

Originally Posted by Christuserloeser

They basically try to explain the difference between "normal" violence and actual Anti-Semitism and track its roots back to early Christianity.

I don't believe there is a difference in violence. Violence is violence any way you cut it.

Do they blame all anti-jew rhetoric on Christianity? Is there a streaming link for this movie? I don't feel like downloading torrents.

**retrospiel** · 10-06-2009, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by GriskaGyoran

You don't like jew, then you probably will be hanging from a tree within a weeks time.

Probably.

Originally Posted by TheEdge

They don't focus on the main problem that's causing all the hostility......

ok.....

Well, that's the point. They try to look beyond the obvious.

I don't believe there is a difference in violence. Violence is violence any way you cut it.

Well you'd differentiate between rape and murder too.

Originally Posted by TheEdge

Do they blame all anti-jew rhetoric on Christianity?

What? No! - Jesus, just watch the damn thing first and analyse it later.

Originally Posted by TheEdge

Is there a streaming link for this movie? I don't feel like downloading torrents.

Not that I know. - I'd recommend utorrent 1.6.1 from oldversion.com, that's as safe as it gets.

**TheEdge** · 10-06-2009, 03:27 PM

Autism rates double in children as vaccines poison an entire generation

According to a U.S. government survey just published, rates of autism in children have doubled since 2003. Today, an estimated 1 in 91 children are being diagnosed with autism, making this the highest rate in any population in the history of human civilization. Meanwhile, the vaccination push in America continues, specifically targeting children with not just seasonal flu vaccines (which may contain thimerosal), but also the H1N1 swine flu vaccine.

Mercury
MSG
Aspartame
Formaldehyde

http://www.naturalnews.com/027175_va...chemicals.html

Think of your kids future......

Vaccines cause autism: Supporting evidence

There is also a strong connection between all forms of vaccinations and autism. A U.S. study found that children who received vaccines containing a preservative called thimerosal, which is almost 50 percent mercury, were more than twice as likely to develop autism than children who did not. Although mercury has been removed from regular childhood vaccines due to growing safety worries, it is still present in other vaccines children might get.

http://www.naturalnews.com/027178_va...uralPedia.html

hmmmmm

**Zebbe** · 10-06-2009, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by The Internets

Studies have proven that people who believe in more than five conspiracy theories are several thousand percent more likely to die of diarrhea, AIDS, schizophrenic self-injury, pink teddybears with pointy spears or even CIA/FBI agents who's job is to prevent the uneducated masses from knowing the actual truth.

hmmmmm...

**Knuckle Duster** · 10-06-2009, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by The Internets

Studies have proven that people who believe in more than five conspiracy theories are several thousand percent more likely to die of diarrhea, AIDS, schizophrenic self-injury, pink teddybears with pointy spears or even CIA/FBI agents who's job is to prevent the uneducated masses from knowing the actual truth.

hmmmmmm...

**TheEdge** · 10-06-2009, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster

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Originally Posted by Zebbe

inconceivable

**Zebbe** · 10-06-2009, 05:39 PM

Good job, just look at your house now:

**TheEdge** · 10-06-2009, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Zebbe

Good job, just look at your house now.

Did you read the vaccine articles? They are important.

**Kiba in Exile** · 10-06-2009, 05:41 PM

Hey, Edge. Not in your chat lately, eh?

Check this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdLxM...layer_embedded

**TheEdge** · 10-06-2009, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Kiba in Exile

Hey, Edge. Not in your chat lately, eh?

Check this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdLxM...layer_embedded

Hey Kiba,

I will check it out when I get off work. What's New?

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