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  • Sega CD

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    My vote is for the PCE CD. So many great games on that one...

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    God, the jaguar cd is so fugly. Matches the controller well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakon View Post
    God, the jaguar cd is so fugly. Matches the controller well.
    Everything about the jag is ugly. The controller, the games, the console, the graphics.... I guess the sound is okay.

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    Isn't this poll a little like going to a Catholic church and asking everyone there what's their favorite religion??

    What I want to know is if that 1 guy who voted for Jaguar CD honestly thought it was better than Sega CD or Turbo CD, or if he picked that for the lulz (probably).

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    TA, please look at when I originally made that post
    Yeah Jaguar CD - Not the Jaguar combo . The Jag CD unit did need it's own separate power source,just like the Mega CD. Unless you want to class the Wonder Mega or Multi Mega as CD add on's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlecRob View Post
    Everything about the jag is ugly. The controller, the games, the console, the graphics.... I guess the sound is okay.
    The regular jaguar console without the cd thing looks okay to me.

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    I like the Jaguar, and the controller. I just wish there were more games that didn't look and sound like shovelware for the system. I'd pick up a Jag CD too if I could but dang those things are expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheath View Post
    I like the Jaguar, and the controller. I just wish there were more games that didn't look and sound like shovelware for the system. I'd pick up a Jag CD too if I could but dang those things are expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheath View Post
    I like the Jaguar, and the controller. I just wish there were more games that didn't look and sound like shovelware for the system. I'd pick up a Jag CD too if I could but dang those things are expensive.
    The Jag controller really should have been like the pro controller from day 1 . . . probably with fewer keypad buttons too. (6 would have been fine -enough to help with keyboard-bound PC ports)

    On the software end, honestly it's kind of shocking the Jaguar got as much as it did at the time (ports and original games), given Atari's position and the horrible market share the system had for its entirely life. (kind of ironic comparing the 7800's situation -selling about 28 times better in 1986-1989 than the Jag from '93-96, or at least 16x better if you include the added 100k Jag's sold during liquidation -and that's only taking US 7800 sales into account)
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    Dude it’s the bios that marries the 16 bit and the 8 bit that makes it 24 bit. If SNK released their double speed bios revision SNK would have had the world’s first 48 bit machine, IDK how you keep ignoring this.
    Quote Originally Posted by evilevoix View Post
    the PCE, that system has no extra silicone for music, how many resources are used to make music and it has less sprites than the MD on screen at once but a larger sprite area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kool kitty89 View Post
    The Jag controller really should have been like the pro controller from day 1 . . . probably with fewer keypad buttons too. (6 would have been fine -enough to help with keyboard-bound PC ports)
    Pro controllers are near impossible to find, and expensive when they pop up. I'd love to see a hack that converts a different pad into a Jag Pro Pad. Something like taking a Saturn 3D controller, replacing the analog stick with a rotary knob (for those games that use it), and making the rest pro-pad compatible (minus the keypad).

    I like the look of the Jaguar by itself, and that one fake all-in-one Jaguar/CD is really awesome looking. The pads are okay... no worse looking that the Saturn 3D controller in my opinion.

    On the software end, honestly it's kind of shocking the Jaguar got as much as it did at the time (ports and original games), given Atari's position and the horrible market share the system had for its entirely life. (kind of ironic comparing the 7800's situation -selling about 28 times better in 1986-1989 than the Jag from '93-96, or at least 16x better if you include the added 100k Jag's sold during liquidation -and that's only taking US 7800 sales into account)
    Atari managed to squeeze more out of the Atari market than Sega did with the 32X... which is real surprising given the relative ease of making games on the 32X compared to the Jaguar. I guess that's probably because Atari had nothing in the wings waiting, while Sega already had the Saturn out.

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    On the software end, honestly it's kind of shocking the Jaguar got as much as it did at the time (ports and original games)
    Not really when you consider the drivel they published . I mean the likes of Club Drive are so shockingly bad it's laughable and with out the 40 Million from SEGA they would have died a death much earlier
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    I've never tried the others but have read up on them and seen the games. It seems as though the Mega CD/Sega CD was the most successful and probably has the biggest software library so I'd say yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chilly Willy View Post
    I like the look of the Jaguar by itself, and that one fake all-in-one Jaguar/CD is really awesome looking. The pads are okay... no worse looking that the Saturn 3D controller in my opinion.
    It's not a fake, but a fully functional hardware mod.

    Atari managed to squeeze more out of the Atari market than Sega did with the 32X... which is real surprising given the relative ease of making games on the 32X compared to the Jaguar. I guess that's probably because Atari had nothing in the wings waiting, while Sega already had the Saturn out.
    Prior to cancellation, the 32x outsold the jaguar by a massive amount, though.


    Quote Originally Posted by Team Andromeda View Post
    Not really when you consider the drivel they published . I mean the likes of Club Drive are so shockingly bad it's laughable and with out the 40 Million from SEGA they would have died a death much earlier
    TBH, the Jaguar itself probably played a role in Atari even getting that 40 million. From a business standpoint, the Jaguar's most important role for Atari Corp was quite possibly that of a way to gain serious investor interest when they were extremely weak in 1993. (hence the test market that year) Prior to that, their only other option was private funding since they lacked the PR to get any reasonable investor interest. (and given Atari Corp's position in 1993, investing private funds would have been a massive risk, and in hindsight still the right decision -especially given Sony's entrance)

    Still, I find it ironic comparing the 7800 to the Jaguar in many ways. The 7800 was obviously, far, far more successful commercially (outsold the Master System 2:1 in the US -even more than that for a while, looking at market share).

    I'm not going to get into an argument about actual (first or 3rd party published) jaguar software in detail, but I meant what I said earlier. The support they got (in quantity and quality) is indeed quite shocking given the overall context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evilevoix View Post
    Dude it’s the bios that marries the 16 bit and the 8 bit that makes it 24 bit. If SNK released their double speed bios revision SNK would have had the world’s first 48 bit machine, IDK how you keep ignoring this.
    Quote Originally Posted by evilevoix View Post
    the PCE, that system has no extra silicone for music, how many resources are used to make music and it has less sprites than the MD on screen at once but a larger sprite area?

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    outselling the master system in the usa is like saying a lada can drive faster than a traband

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrap View Post
    I've never tried the others but have read up on them and seen the games. It seems as though the Mega CD/Sega CD was the most successful and probably has the biggest software library so I'd say yes.
    The Sega-CD has 220 games. The PC Engine/Turbo-CD has around 400.

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