Streets of Rage 2 = Overrated IMO

[Masked Avenger]

Actually SOR 1 isn't repetitive at all due to the variety of stages and enemy sprites.

Did you play the same game we all did? Or is it nostalgia talking?

SOR2 lacks everything except fpr the variety and detail of the enemy sprites. This they got right!

You forgot better tunes, more characters, better looking stages and least but not least, a completely overhauled super system. That was by far the biggest flaw in SOR1, something you should understand since it is so sssllllllooooooowwwww.

[TheEdge]

No, SOR2 is slower in combat than SOR1. Its like they went back in time instead of forward with SOR2.

Re-Read the thread. You will see what I'm talking about. Many people agree.

[Masked Avenger]

No, SOR2 is slower in combat than SOR1. Its like they went back in time instead of forward with SOR2.

Re-Read the thread. You will see what I'm talking about. Many people agree.

Re-read the thread? You don't even read the replies submitted to you. Case in point with my last post in which you say no to something I didn't even write.

We get it, you think the combos came out faster in SOR1. No need to re-read anything. But you seem unable to even acknowledge that the super system of SOR1 was the slowest part in the entire series and was also completely the same no matter which character you used.

In SOR2 and 3, supers became part of each character's unique and expanded move set, instead of the broken relic of past beat-em-ups that SOR1 copied. Your speed and diversity argument is seriously undermined right there if those issues matter so much to you.

I will freely admit BK3/SOR3 has better play mechanics than SOR2 (though speed of combos is a non-issue for me), but something went wrong with the soundtrack, some of the later levels and the localization for Western markets, tarnishing its reputation and the way the game is remembered.

However, everything came together nicely in SOR2. That's why it is revered by most Sega fans to this day. SOR1 was a fresh start and a compelling alternative to Final Fight on the new Super NES, but it was handily beaten by its sequel by most people's accounts.

[TheEdge]

lol, First off, we all noticed how you omitted the "slow combo" reference in my quote you posted. Secondly, I don't know why your getting so huffy about this. Also don't dis SOR1. Its the first in the franchise and it still kicks SOR2's ass and it wasnt slow. The combos were fine and the walking speed was as good as it can be at the time.

Anyway, Its a simple concept.

SOR2 is overrated cause its boring, slow, and clunky.

Don't get your trousers in a twist about it. SOR1 and SOR3 are still good.

[Exolen]

I'm sure it was already mentioned, but SOR2's graphics and music are way superior to 1 imo. Although I enjoy both, 2 takes the cake. I wish I could play 3 but I haven't seen a copy in years and don't want to pay 30 bucks for it.

[Rusty Venture]

Save up your bucks and just get "Bare Knuckle 3". SOR3 is tedious monotony with gender neutral colors.

And I loves me SOR1 tunes, but the control on that game is fucking stiff.

I miss Adam (as a playable character), but I can kick ass much more efficiently in 2 (and more so in 3).

[Masked Avenger]

Secondly, I don't know why your getting so huffy about this.

Oh really?

Also don't dis SOR1.

Look who's getting huffy. The guy who started this thread can't take a rebuttal.

Its the first in the franchise and it still kicks SOR1's ass and it wasnt slow.

Yes, SOR1 beats its own ass.

Slow, stiff and (something not mentionned yet, I believe) choppy. The latter is inexcusable since all these side-scrolling games are supposed to run at 60 fps on the Genny, yet SOR1 is among a select few games which inexplicably didn't.

The combos were fine and the walking speed was as good as it can be at the time.

Good enough for 1991. Outdated by 1992.

The running in SOR3 was a great idea too.

Anyway, Its a simple concept.

Yes, SOR1 is a classic, but bettered by the sequels.

SOR2 is overrated cause its boring, slow, and clunky.

Only because you look back at SOR1 with rose-tinted glasses. The fact you can only concede that the sprites were improved by the second game is pretty telling.

Don't get your trousers in a twist about it. SOR1 and SOR3 are still good.

SOR3 beats SOR1 where it matters most: Gameplay.

[TheEdge]

Correction. In the previous post I meant to say "SOR1 kicks SOR 2's ass "


You should have just said SOR3 and SOR1 both beat SOR2 in Gameplay! And you still didn't fess up to omitting my phrase "slow combos" while describing SOR2. The games bad. Deal with it.


.....and you say I have rose tinted glasses on. Look in the mirror. Silly

[Masked Avenger]

The slow combos is something I already admitted I didn't care much about. I can go and play SOR3 and then go back to SOR2 and it makes no difference to me.

Running and rolling, though, makes a big difference in SOR3.

SOR1, on the other hand, has much bigger issues that make whatever speed the combos are at, irrelevant to me. Stiff controls, limited moves and broken super system definitely matter. If SOR1 was the only beat-em-up on the Genny, that might be ok, but the sequels already rectified those problems and made SOR1 obsolete in the process.

[TheEdge]

The slow combos is something I already admitted I didn't care much about. I can go and play SOR3 and then go back to SOR2 and it makes no difference to me.

Running and rolling, though, makes a big difference in SOR3.

SOR1, on the other hand, has much bigger issues that make whatever speed the combos are at, irrelevant to me. Stiff controls, limited moves and broken super system definitely matter. If SOR1 was the only beat-em-up on the Genny, that might be ok, but the sequels already rectified those problems and made SOR1 obsolete in the process.

Is there a reason why you are hate-ing on SOR1? That's like hate-ing on the original Pac-Man. Its the first game if its kind and IMO does it rather well. SOR2 is the problem here. Its almost unplayable.

Wa-Bam!

I have to agree, i have exactly same feeling.
SOR2 isn't right to me as well (it feel very generic)...

I like the levels but the mechanics suck. I can't be a total cheapass like in the first one.

Well, I'm glad someone else had the guts to dare broach this topic. I fell in love with SOR 1, and I thought the character balance was perfect. But SOR 2, wonderful game that it is, is just too dang slow if you're controlling Axel or Max. Skatez is fast but lacks power. Blaze is the only character I can use effectively due to her attack combos, specials, and speed. Axel is the character I wanted to master, but his special moves just have NO range on them and you need to be standing right next to the enemy to kill him.

Wasn't his special attacks different Bare Knuckle II?

So, yeah, I agree: SOR 2 = Overrated, SOR 1 = Not given quite enough credit!

EDIT: That said, I do need more practice on this game. I admit that I could use some observation sessions from some SOR masters.

I don't like SOR2. I prefer the 1st one.

I'm not overly fond of SoR2 but BRIII (yes the Japanese version which I imported back then) remains the best in the series. I like its music best too. You can never have an unbiased view of any given game(s).

I'm not sure if it was mentioned before in this thread, but I feel that all SOR2 needed was the ability to make the character run.

My favorite will always be SOR 1. It was the first I played, and to this day is the one I play the most often. Something about it's simplicity that sucks me in. SOR 2 was a great sequel no doubt, but I too felt it was more sluggish and repetitive to some degree. And the alien portion at the theme park was bizarre. But I love all 3 of 'em.

[Knuckle Duster]

Streets of Rage 2 was intentionally slower paced, but it also had better sound, graphics, more moves. It's an improvement over SOR1 in a number of ways. The slower pace does nothing to 'Break' the game. Sure a 'run' feature would have been nice, but is hardly necessary.

Weather or not SOR2's overrated, or not prefered compared to SOR1 or 3?
Well, that's 'opinionated bullshit' not worth exploring.
We all know the score on the pros and cons of each entry.

Arguing with, much less conversing with TheEdge is like pissing into the wind,do yourself the favor, and don't bother.

[Masked Avenger]

Oh my, out of 15+ pages, some people actualy agreed with you. Hold the presses! Should I quote the majority who disagreed in response?

Why make a topic about SOR2 being overrated if not that most people usually hold SOR2 in higher regard than any other game in the series?

You created this topic, knowing full well you had an impopular opinion. I can emphatize with your position, you never got the SOR1 sequel you wanted and fail to comprehend why most of your peers love, play and even finish a game you deem unplayable. Indeed, how do they even manage to finish it? They must use their craziness and some infinite continue trickery to make it the end credits after weeks of effort and non-stop playing. It's the only explanation, right?

As for SOR1, I didnt create a topic bashing the game, but since you created a topic bashing SOR2 while putting SOR1 on a pedestal, don't act all surprised when people will actually call you out on it. I consider it fair game and it's a forum to discuss and debate things after all. You made SOR1 open to criticism with this very topic since it's the only way to explain to you why people, most of us no less, prefer SOR2 over SOR1.

[TheEdge]

(irrational blubbering) EDGE BAD WAAA WAAA,

ANYWAY..............



I think Masked Avenger makes a good point but he is not touching the fact that the primary combo speeds is the achille's heel to SOR2. It ruins the game for me and others but its all up to the individual to decide. We still got SOR1 and SOR3 to play. No biggy.

[Rusty Venture]

I can go and play SOR3 and then go back to SOR2 and it makes no difference to me.

Running and rolling, though, makes a big difference in SOR3.

SOR1, on the other hand, has much bigger issues that make whatever speed the combos are at, irrelevant to me. Stiff controls, limited moves and broken super system definitely matter. If SOR1 was the only beat-em-up on the Genny, that might be ok, but the sequels already rectified those problems and made SOR1 obsolete in the process.

I'm gonna have to agree with all of this. I can jump between 2&3 and not have too much of an issue. Playing 2 or 3 then playing 1 shows how absolutely crude and stiff the control is in the first game.

[TheEdge]

I'm gonna have to agree with all of this. I can jump between 2&3 and not have too much of an issue. Playing 2 or 3 then playing 1 shows how absolutely crude and stiff the control is in the first game.

Of course you do...