Throwing Money Down the Drain!

[TheEdge]

Why do people pay money for old school games on their PS3 / XBOX360 / Wii?

This is so silly to me. Yesterday when I got home from work I went over to my Dreamcast popped in my NesterDC disc and played MegaMan2 for hours.

How much did it cost for every single NES, SMS, Genesis, TurboGrafx, SNES game ever created?

$14.99

Why did it cost $14.99? Cause thats how much it cost to buy the 100-Stack of CD-Rs I used to burn all these games with.

Also at Dreamcast-Talk.com some guy has been uploading NEOGEO-CD games that run perfectly on the DC.

So I implore you all, Stop throwing money down the drain. Get a stack of writeable CD's and start burning.

[kool kitty89]

Or just use an emulator on a computer, which in many cases would be more accurate any way.

[Nunzio]

$14.99, if you count your time is worthless, a percentage of the cost of the PC, maintenance, internet connection, electricity, piece of rent for the amount of space it takes up in your home etc, etc...

[Baloo]

$14.99, if you count your time is worthless, a percentage of the cost of the PC, maintenance, internet connection, electricity, piece of rent for the amount of space it takes up in your home etc, etc...

This.

Also, because it's official. Most people don't know about emulators, or how to use NesterDC to burn an ISO to a CD-R to play on their Dreamcast.

I for one, can't stand emulators, Burning ISOs to disks, and any/all of that other nonsense. Emulators are so unnatural, and it's stealing too. Also, playing the game on the real system is probably 1000x better than playing it on an emulator or a collection of some sorts. I like collections as a whole, because it helps keep classic games and companies like Sega alive, but I myself prefer the real, original deal.

Then again, I might be biased due to the fact that I have most of those old systems.

[TheEdge]

$14.99, if you count your time is worthless, a percentage of the cost of the PC, maintenance, internet connection, electricity, piece of rent for the amount of space it takes up in your home etc, etc...

So instead of playing these countless classics for free at any time on my Dreamcast I should pay $5 for each on an "official" virtual console? Also you play your virtual consoles in a house right? with maintenance? internet connection? electricity? Rent? So whats the difference?


ridiculous

Get a stack of CD-R's and go to DCISOZONE.com

[InternalPrimate]

Why do people pay money for old school games on their PS3 / XBOX360 / Wii?

This is so silly to me. Yesterday when I got home from work I went over to my Dreamcast popped in my NesterDC disc and played MegaMan2 for hours.

How much did it cost for every single NES, SMS, Genesis, TurboGrafx, SNES game ever created?

$14.99

Why did it cost $14.99? Cause thats how much it cost to buy the 100-Stack of CD-Rs I used to burn all these games with.

Also at Dreamcast-Talk.com some guy has been uploading NEOGEO-CD games that run perfectly on the DC.

So I emplore you all, Stop throwing money down the drain. Get a stack of writeable CD's and start burning.

$14.99 isn't the official price of anything, it's the amount you used to fund your (sorta/kinda) illegal hobby. That people pay for retro games (I just plopped down $5.99 for Suikoden 1) is their perogative and because it's the legal way of doing things, I'd argue that it isn't wasting money at all. In fact, $5.99 for Suikoden is a heck of a deal!

That being said, I wholly agree with you Edge that NesterDC is a gift from the gaming heavens

[Nunzio]

So instead of playing these countless classics for free at any time on my Dreamcast I should pay $5 for each on an "official" virtual console? Also you play your virtual consoles in a house right? with maintenance? internet connection? electricity? Rent? So whats the difference?

Yeah I know, just felt like saying $14.99 isn't an accurate figure. However, a game console takes up way less space and electricity than a PC. But you don't have to upgrade and maintain a console like a PC. For the PC we're even counting a piece of the upgrade of anti-virus software. Shit adds up. Still nowhere near the cost of a several virtual console downloads, but still $14.99 is a bit of an exaggeration.

[TheEdge]

$14.99 isn't the official price of anything, it's the amount you used to fund your (sorta/kinda) illegal hobby. That people pay for retro games (I just plopped down $5.99 for Suikoden 1) is their perogative and because it's the legal way of doing things, I'd argue that it isn't wasting money at all. In fact, $5.99 for Suikoden is a heck of a deal!

That being said, I wholly agree with you Edge that NesterDC is a gift from the gaming heavens

Well, I wasn't saying that ALL games should be emulated.

I just bought
6-Pak
Shinobi III
Contra Hard Corps
Sub Terrainia
Vectorman
Rocket Knight adventure

All in Cartridge form! Legit, Official!

What I am saying is why would anyone buy any of these virtual roms on these new consoles? If you buy every single retro game on the PS3 / 360 / Wii virtual consoles then the price to your credit card would be astronomical. Why not (if you have a Dreamcast / CD Burner) burn a copy of a emulator and use it for your DC? I don't understand people. They are sucking the money out of ya.

If you going to toss money away the least you can do is mail it to me!

Yeah I know, just felt like saying $14.99 isn't an accurate figure. However, a game console takes up way less space and electricity than a PC. But you don't have to upgrade and maintain a console like a PC. For the PC we're even counting a piece of the upgrade of anti-virus software. Shit adds up. Still nowhere near the cost of a several virtual console downloads, but still $14.99 is a bit of an exaggeration.

I don't know if you know this but you can burn a CD with a Computer that is from 1996. This whole mythology that you have to maintain a PC like a Ferrari is incorrect. You buy it and you use it for 10 years.

[MrMatthews]

What I am saying is why would anyone buy any of these virtual roms on these new consoles? If you buy every single retro game on the PS3 / 360 / Wii virtual consoles then the price to your credit card would be astronomical. Why not (if you have a Dreamcast / CD Burner) burn a copy of a emulator and use it for your DC? I don't understand people. They are sucking the money out of ya.

If you going to toss money away the least you can do is mail it to me!

Okay, that seems fair . . .

*pulls out wallet*

. . . WAIT A MINUTE!!!

Who the hell is downloading every retro game on the PS3/360/Wii? There are a couple hundred on the Virtual Console alone, but how many of those games do you think each individual person actually downloads? I myself have about twenty, I think.

I have no interest in dealing with the hassle of emulated games, so $5 to $10 every once in a while for a game from the VC is pretty reasonable. I see it as changing motor oil yourself versus going to Jiffy Lube. DIY is cheaper, but many people either don't know how to do it, are unable to do it, or simply are too lazy. Might as well spend the extra dough for the convenience of having a professional do it for you.

[celticsfan]

I agree with you Mr Matthews. Some people have so many other commitments in life that they don't have the time to burn roms to disc.

I love to go to the old stores and get the games in cartridge form and play them on all my old systems, but for some who don't have those old systems, buying them is the next best thing because they can play them while sitting on the couch, with friends over, and so on.

I liken it to my other hobby: collecting vinyl records. Yeah, I can download Pink Floyd's The Wall through so many ways, but I'd rather have the actual record spinning on the turntable.

Nostalgia can't be dismissed.

[TheEdge]

I don't think you guys know how fast it takes to download these emulators and burn them.

I can only estimate 10 minutes the most. For every single game on a certain retro console FULLY PLAYABLE with fully rendered games and autofire options.

10 minutes each. WOW thats a lot of time. Sometimes I think you guys disagree with me for the sake of disagreeing. Jeez.

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[Knuckle Duster]

YAY! Another "Dead Horse" topic.

Usually its a dialogue like:

Pirate:"Yaarrr piracy is cheap and easy! You're dumb for buying things!"
Wii Owner:"I don't play video games regularly any more, and it's convenient to see nostalgic titles from my childhood available on this new toy that I picked up for the kids at a moderately cheap price, I don't have older hardware or want to play emulators on my PC"

Seriously. This topic has been argued and discussed again and again everywhere.

I hereby propose a mandatory castration for repeated offenses.
Make it happen mods. Work your magic. Start collecting balls.

[TheEdge]

My Genesis is still hooked up but I don't have a SNES nor do I wish to purchase one and I have no room in my wall unit to put my NES so next best thing is to play it FOR FREE on my DC.

Now if you excuse me I have zombies to kill in Castlevania 3!

[celticsfan]

10 minutes? That's all? Because with that 10 minutes, I think your average gamer/parent could be paying bills online, getting dinner ready, picking up kids from school, helping them with homework, spending time with their significant other, checking work-related emails, grabbing 30 minutes to sit down and have some relaxation time, put the kids to bed, spend some more time with the spouse, go to bed, wake up, go to work, come home, and do it all over again.

Yeah, if I'm that husband/parent, $15 is a lot easier to do. You make it sound like everyone has 10 minutes to spare, when in reality, 10 minutes is too valuable to worry about burning roms.

[Baloo]

10 minutes? That's all? Because with that 10 minutes, I think your average gamer/parent could be paying bills online, getting dinner ready, picking up kids from school, helping them with homework, spending time with their significant other, checking work-related emails, grabbing 30 minutes to sit down and have some relaxation time, put the kids to bed, spend some more time with the spouse, go to bed, wake up, go to work, come home, and do it all over again.

Yeah, if I'm that husband/parent, $15 is a lot easier to do. You make it sound like everyone has 10 minutes to spare, when in reality, 10 minutes is too valuable to worry about burning roms.

Yeah, ten minutes is a long time, and it can take even LONGER if you find faulty ISO files, or the computer crashes mid-burn, or you pop the wrong CD in, or something else goes wrong. I tell you, I've burned about 4 games for my Dreamcast, and all of 1 worked. That's how ridiculous trying to find files that work are. And let's not forget downloading times either for the program to burn it to the disc, and for each file. And if it's in a torrent (which some of them are actually) forget it, it'll take you the entire day to play one game, that might not even work. And the fact that it's illegal doesn't help the matter much either.

It's so much easier to pay the 500-1000 Wii Points for the game and wait 5 minutes to play it, rather than take 30+ minutes downloading some emulators, ROMs, other files, buying CD-Rs, and burning the CDs.