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  • Shenmue

    4 7.55%
  • Shinobi

    7 13.21%
  • Phantasy Star

    3 5.66%
  • Nights

    3 5.66%
  • Streets of Rage

    7 13.21%
  • Virtua Fighter

    1 1.89%
  • Sonic

    22 41.51%
  • Jet Set Radio

    1 1.89%
  • Daytona

    3 5.66%
  • Panzer Dragoon

    2 3.77%
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Thread: Best Sega franchise/series

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Tiger View Post
    The real Shining Force games (except the GBA port) are as good as it gets.

    I'd except any poll to be missing entries that should be included and including some that aren't as worthy, but this list of franchises/series includes several that are comprised of only two (modern) games, while missing franchises like Wonderboy/Monster World, Fantasy Zone and Shining Force have many quality games that have stood the test of time.





    Sega was epic for many years before they had a mainstream console or Sonic even existed. It's been their desire to cater to the mainstream instead of focusing on quality games that has weakened the brand.
    I think it was left out, because Camelot actually developed it(I'm not 100% sure, but I think Sega might've contracted them to make such a game, like how Nintendo contracted Rare/treasure to make some games or is it a separate company created by Sega), but yea not made by Sega.

    However yea, I love the real Shining Force games.
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    Another vote for Shining Force... which is sadly not listed as an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltor View Post
    I think it was left out, because Camelot actually developed it(I'm not 100% sure, but I think Sega might've contracted them to make such a game, like how Nintendo contracted Rare/treasure to make some games or is it a separate company created by Sega), but yea not made by Sega.

    However yea, I love the real Shining Force games.
    Considering the OP wanted to include Toejam & Earl - which wasn't made by Sega, but rather TJ&E Productions, Inc. - I don't think this was the case.
    A retarded Sonic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSonicRetard View Post
    Considering the OP wanted to include Toejam & Earl - which wasn't made by Sega, but rather TJ&E Productions, Inc. - I don't think this was the case.
    Oh ok, then the OP should be slapped, for leaving a much more iconic non Sega game out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltor View Post
    I think it was left out, because Camelot actually developed it(I'm not 100% sure, but I think Sega might've contracted them to make such a game, like how Nintendo contracted Rare/treasure to make some games or is it a separate company created by Sega), but yea not made by Sega.

    However yea, I love the real Shining Force games.
    Shining Force (and Shining in the Darkness) was created by a then in-house Sega development team known as Sonic! Software Planning, they later changed their name to Camelot Software Planning and separated from Sega to become a third party developer. They continued to develop the Shining series for Sega until the Saturn's abrupt demise. Shining is a Sega License. Regardless, you'll be hard pressed to find any series on that poll that doesn't contain games that were outsourced to private developers.

    Personally I find it ironic that Sonic! Software Planning now creates Mario games. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daria View Post
    Shining Force (and Shining in the Darkness) was created by a then in-house Sega development team known as Sonic! Software Planning, they later changed their name to Camelot Software Planning and separated from Sega to become a third party developer. They continued to develop the Shining series for Sega until the Saturn's abrupt demise. Shining is a Sega License. Regardless, you'll be hard pressed to find any series on that poll that doesn't contain games that were outsourced to private developers.
    Especially the series which continue today. It's very trendy for big publishers like Sega to outsource their projects to smaller teams outside of the studio - case in point, Dimps has made more Sonic games in the last 10 years than Sonic Team, and the most recent Shinobi game (which is killer btw, don't judge the game off it's graphics) was made by Griptonite Games.
    A retarded Sonic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daria View Post
    Shining Force (and Shining in the Darkness) was created by a then in-house Sega development team known as Sonic! Software Planning, they later changed their name to Camelot Software Planning and separated from Sega to become a third party developer. They continued to develop the Shining series for Sega until the Saturn's abrupt demise. Shining is a Sega License. Regardless, you'll be hard pressed to find any series on that poll that doesn't contain games that were outsourced to private developers.

    Personally I find it ironic that Sonic! Software Planning now creates Mario games. :P
    I had a feeling it was something like that(I mean come on, I found it rather odd Camelot was the only company aside from Sega, who knew WTF they were doing, when it came to the color pallet capeabilities of the Genesis, not to mention the quality of their games in general were very high).

    Well yea, Sega is infamous for whoring out their brands.

    Lol you're joking right, I didn't know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltor View Post
    Lol you're joking right, I didn't know that.
    Besides Golden Sun which is their baby, Camelot is known for doing the Mario Tennis and Golf games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daria View Post
    Besides Golden Sun which is their baby, Camelot is known for doing the Mario Tennis and Golf games.
    The best golf and tennis games ever, btw. They're rpg-likes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daria View Post
    Besides Golden Sun which is their baby, Camelot is known for doing the Mario Tennis and Golf games.
    Yea I knew they did Golden Sun(the new one sucks though), I love the original Golden sun, two part game.

    Oh ok, yea didn't know that.

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    To everyone mourning the loss of Shining Force... have you seen the trailer for Shining Blade? Holy shit, it looks to be easily the best shining game since Shining Force 3. It's using the next evolution of the Blitz engine (valkyria chronicles) and, apart from it's generic anime characters, it's battles look great.

    Unforuntately, it's for the PSP, meaning we'll never, ever get it in the US.

    EDIT: Aparently, this evolution of the Blitz engine is being dubbed "concerto" and its being billed as the successor to the Valkyria games.

    Hot damn!
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    Seriously, do people even buy games for the PSP? I thought all they did with that unit is pirate. Why won't Sega make stuff like this multiplatform?
    "... If Sony reduced the price of the Playstation, Sega would have to follow suit in order to stay competitive, .... would then translate into huge losses for the company." p170 Revolutionaries at Sony.

    "We ... put Sega out of the hardware business ..." Peter Dille senior vice president of marketing at Sony Computer Entertainment

    "Sega tried to have similarly strict licensing agreements as Nintendo...The only reason it didn't take off was because EA..." TrekkiesUnite

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    Sonic was the best when it was on Genesis. The best 16-bit platformer series period.
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    I dunno about that. Only three of his games from his 16-bit run were actually good.
    Sonic, Sonic 2, and Sonic CD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bastardcat View Post
    I dunno about that. Only three of his games from his 16-bit run were actually good.
    Sonic, Sonic 2, and Sonic CD.
    All of them were good, either Sonic & Knuckles standalone or with Sonic 3 locked-on is the best. And no, Mario and DKC games are not that good.
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