iPhone 3GS=the best thing ever, ever

[Chilly Willy]

The biggest problem with the new iPhone is the same problem many phones have: the built-in camera. Many places no longer allow devices with cameras inside, be they actual cameras, phones, or laptops. Most federal buildings are that way... the last time I had jury duty, they confiscated all cameras and devices with cameras before they let the people into the courthouse. Not that you should be using a cell phone in the court anyway.

[0x15e]

Soo ... has AT&T seen fit to turn on the MMS functionality since Apple finally added it to the phone?

Every time I go to buy one of these, there's some deal killer.

First, it was realizing that the iPhone STILL doesn't have a feature my ancient Sony W810i has.

Today, I figured I'd at least go talk to a rep at the store about it but ... *gasp* they've been out of stock since launch day.

Meh, my old phone works just fine. I'll get an iPhone when it works as well as my now 3+ year old cheapy phone and I don't have to jump through hoops to buy it.

[Metal_Sonic]

Expect a recall on the overly expensive new toy you just bought.

Someone just took a giant shit on someone's parade.

[sketch]

The iphone is just another piece of electronics. Some people love them and they do exactly what they want. Others don't. If you don't like it, don't buy it. I don't understand why people have to shit all over someone because they find the iPhone to be great for them personally.

I don't suppose these same people would find it acceptable if they were being dumped on as losers dorks for playing a 20 year old game machine simply because no one else understands the appeal.

[Knuckle Duster]

Haha, I hold no grudges against the iPhone, I was going to buy one next week.

I just seen it as an opportunity to tell people about a possible recall AND a chance to link that awesome album cover photo of King Diamond in a funny way.

[17daysolderthannes]

I might be interested if there weren't an extra "iPhone fee" that they charge for no good reason.

no good reason? $30 is a steal for mobile internet that can be dialed into everywhere. That $30 fee is also to help pay off the remaining $300 you don't pay upfront (I believe it is $500 if you buy it outright without a plan). I said it wasn't worth it before, but now that I have it, its totally worth it.

Expect a recall on the overly expensive new toy you just bought.

#1 its not a toy, its the most useful thing ever made. Thats said, I do already have a solid page of downloaded games, but there is little an iPhone CAN'T do that any other electronic devices can.

#2 I've used mine almost non-stop since I got it Monday and it has never overheated or been "too hot to touch." I think some sensitive skinned little twats need to grow a pair. My N-Gage QD used to get scalding hot after fully charging it, its called a battery. Have you ever used an XBOX 360 before? I think I could warm a warehouse in Siberia with just one of those.

#3 I don't really care if they do recall it, all that means is that I sync it to iTunes for about, oh, 15 seconds, take the new one out of the box, sync all my shit onto the new one, and send the old one back. I could literally receive and throw away an iPhone every day and it would only be minimally inconvenient with the iTunes backup (you can backup EVERYTHING including contacts, bookmarks, etc).

edit: I just looked into that some more, and it looks like 1 isolated incident has been blown out of proportion by retards trying to find a reason to shit on the iPhone. Apple tests the ever loving fuck out of their products before releasing them and based on my long history with Apple I can almost guarantee any overheating problems are the dumbass shithead owner's fault.

This is definitely crap in electronic form. A million unnecessary functions I never need, for an astronomical price to put more cash on some idiot's already too big pile of wealth.

I'm fine with my cheap and simple Nokia 1234 or whatever it's called, thanks.

That's only because you're thinking about it wrong. Do you own a video game system? a camera? a video camera? a graphing calculator? a GPS? an MP3 player? an MP4 player? a portable internet/e-mail receiver? a PHONE? an alarm clock? etc......

What if you could have all of that in a device that is with you 24/7 because it is your primary means of communication? What good is a PSP if you don't keep it in your pocket all the time? what about an MP3 player? a camera? etc. I own all 3 of those things separately, but do I have the PSP when I have to wait at the DMV? do I have the camera when I see a replica of the A-Team van parked on the street? Do I have the MP3 player when I'm on campus walking from class to class?

When you have everything in your pocket all the time, its always there, ready to be used. It may not do everything as well as a purpose built device, but it does it better than you need it in 99% of situations. Seriously, I've heard a 10 Megapixel camera can take a picture big enough to be a poster, when do you REALLY need that? I posted a picture in this thread of a picture I took with the iPhone WHILE GOING DOWN THE ROAD in a car and it is big and clear enough for 99% of any possible situation that would require a picture taken.

I only ever need a phone to see the time, and rarely to talk to someone... I need to get another phone, my current one managed to die.... poor Nokia3310

How about you get a watch ?

Here's the question though, do you leave your house without your phone, whether or not you actively plan to call someone? Almost everyone (at least everyone with any sense) always brings their phone anywhere they go if for no other reason than emergencies. What if my car breaks down? I could just whip out my cell phone...or I could walk miles in some cases to the nearest place with a hard wired phone and hope I can remember the numbers or have them written down somewhere. If you always have it with you, you always have every feature it has with you as well, which is the whole point. You don't get the iPhone to sit in your house and surf the internet, you get the iPhone so you can surf the internet anywhere at any time for any reason, which means anything you need the answer to is just a few screen taps away.

The biggest problem with the new iPhone is the same problem many phones have: the built-in camera. Many places no longer allow devices with cameras inside, be they actual cameras, phones, or laptops. Most federal buildings are that way... the last time I had jury duty, they confiscated all cameras and devices with cameras before they let the people into the courthouse. Not that you should be using a cell phone in the court anyway.

Yes, but at the same time you can get away with a camera in places you otherwise couldn't. I can give you one example from a job I had a few years ago. I worked for Super 1 (grocery store) and went to other grocery stores to collect the prices of the top 600 items for price matching, etc. If you look on the door of most stores, they say no cameras and would probably kick you out if they caught you taking pictures of displays, etc. because they are very protective of their layout strategies. At the same time, any old numnut could walk in there with a camera phone and snap pictures of the whole store and it would just look like he was texting his buddies about the kegger party. Honestly, how many times has a camera in your phone REALLY been a problem? The only 2 main places I can think of is jury duty and army bases, and they probably don't want you having a cell phone at all in either one. IIRC, they made me leave my N-Gage QD in my car when I went to a court date and it didn't even have a camera.

The iphone is just another piece of electronics. Some people love them and they do exactly what they want. Others don't. If you don't like it, don't buy it. I don't understand why people have to shit all over someone because they find the iPhone to be great for them personally.

I don't suppose these same people would find it acceptable if they were being dumped on as losers dorks for playing a 20 year old game machine simply because no one else understands the appeal.

I think alot of it has to do with the fact that way too many iPhone owners are douches that really have no need or business getting an iPhone. They just get it because its the "in" phone so they can say "oh, I have an iPhone" yet all they ever use it for is calling people and texting their drama queen friends. I find its sort of like a BMW. If someone sees you driving a BMW, they tell you about their Toyota, etc. that does everything the BMW does for less money and show you how the numbers are on paper. At the end of the day, nothing drives quite like a BMW (I may be referring to older cars, I don't know if they still have that reputation) and those that really appreciate it for being a drivers car vs. a douchey status symbol are left constantly defending themselves. I'm one of the few people I know of so far that really use the iPhone to its full potential. Pretty much every feature on it is something I would use daily. If anything, the best part is how streamlined everything about it is. Other phones may have the same stuff on paper, but in practice its too unwieldy to be worth the effort.

[sketch]

Haha, I hold no grudges against the iPhone, I was going to buy one next week.

I just seen it as an opportunity to tell people about a possible recall AND a chance to link that awesome album cover photo of King Diamond in a funny way.

Well, if you buy one and you hate it, then you have every right to rag on it As for recalls, I honestly never buy a new product, or a new updated product, when it first comes out. I always wait until they work the kinks out. Also, for me, the $70 monthly minimum is too high (at least right now), but if that comes down even $10, I'm probably there

[sketch]

I think alot of it has to do with the fact that way too many iPhone owners are douches that really have no need or business getting an iPhone. They just get it because its the "in" phone so they can say "oh, I have an iPhone" yet all they ever use it for is calling people and texting their drama queen friends. I find its sort of like a BMW. If someone sees you driving a BMW, they tell you about their Toyota, etc. that does everything the BMW does for less money and show you how the numbers are on paper. At the end of the day, nothing drives quite like a BMW (I may be referring to older cars, I don't know if they still have that reputation) and those that really appreciate it for being a drivers car vs. a douchey status symbol are left constantly defending themselves. I'm one of the few people I know of so far that really use the iPhone to its full potential. Pretty much every feature on it is something I would use daily. If anything, the best part is how streamlined everything about it is. Other phones may have the same stuff on paper, but in practice its too unwieldy to be worth the effort.

Good point. The two people I know who have them use the versatility and power the iPhone has to offer. My one friend virtually lives on hers, between texting, telephone, websurfing, and casual games. They love their phones for what they do. I have seen plenty of trendy numb nuts sporting the iPhone as well, and yeah, they give it a bad name. Oh, well. Can't let a few (million) douchebags spoil it for everyone

[Metal_Sonic]

#2 I've used mine almost non-stop since I got it Monday and it has never overheated or been "too hot to touch." I think some sensitive skinned little twats need to grow a pair. My N-Gage QD used to get scalding hot after fully charging it, its called a battery. Have you ever used an XBOX 360 before? I think I could warm a warehouse in Siberia with just one of those.

Ah come on, you like the iPhone and everything but defending a flaw? The things get hot enough to discolor and BLOW UP. Let something blow up in your ear, I'll be there to say "Stop being a nutless sissy". If I were you, I would get it replaced. About the 360 ungodly heat, put it up to your ear and have a conversation. Enjoy.

[sketch]

Ah come on, you like the iPhone and everything but defending a flaw? The things get hot enough to discolor and BLOW UP. Let something blow up in your ear, I'll be there to say "Stop being a nutless sissy". If I were you, I would get it replaced. About the 360 ungodly heat, put it up to your ear and have a conversation. Enjoy.

Read your own link. The article says there have been no reports of batteries blowing up.

Edit: More importantly, this is a "hearsay" article. It's just reporting that there are reports that people are complaining about overheating. Hardly conclusive...

[17daysolderthannes]

Ah come on, you like the iPhone and everything but defending a flaw? The things get hot enough to discolor and BLOW UP. Let something blow up in your ear, I'll be there to say "Stop being a nutless sissy". If I were you, I would get it replaced. About the 360 ungodly heat, put it up to your ear and have a conversation. Enjoy.

alleged flaw. That's something that really annoys me: people just go around calling things flawed because they used it wrong and fucked it up. You just ignore my personal testimony for some gossip on the internet. I'm sorry, do I not own an iPhone 3GS? These reports aren't like RROD where it takes a few months/years to happen, these people got their phones like 2 weeks before I did, if it were truly defective, it would be an immediate issue and would certainly have come up while playing battery sucking high-end games for hours at a time while also intermittently screwing around with the GPS, internet, media players, and other heavy processing applications.

When Apple issues a recall, THEN its a problem/flaw, because common sense dictates they will if it truly is a problem. Even one or two lawsuits would cost more than enough to justify recalling it, not to mention recalling it as soon as possible creates a positive public image. Trust me when I say if Apple doesn't recall it, its just another pile of bullshit gossip among drama queens. That's why Apple shut down a thread on an Apple forum about it, because its an unsubstantiated rumor that could really hurt the sales of the iPhone and Apple's image in general even if its not true. Its just like Michael Jackson and the pedophilia thing, he was acquitted, but up until his death any mention of him was met with a child rape joke, no matter what the truth is, the juicy gossip is always what people remember.

Read your own link. The article says there have been no reports of batteries blowing up.

Edit: More importantly, this is a "hearsay" article. It's just reporting that there are reports that people are complaining about overheating. Hardly conclusive...

word. If batteries were blowing up, Wozniak would personally show up to my house to take my iPhone and give me a free Macbook for my trouble, thats how quick Apple would be recalling them if they were actually blowing up.

[jerry coeurl]

I hate people who are attached to their phones, and iPhones really seem to facilitate this. Everyone I know who has an iPhone hardly ever puts the damn thing down. I can understand the appeal of an all-in-one device that does everything well, but it just puzzles me when I see people at a party/kick-back/whatever who spend the entire time on the couch, texting their goddamn brains out.

When I go out it's usually to get away from the internet and video games, etc.

[j_factor]

no good reason? $30 is a steal for mobile internet that can be dialed into everywhere. That $30 fee is also to help pay off the remaining $300 you don't pay upfront (I believe it is $500 if you buy it outright without a plan). I said it wasn't worth it before, but now that I have it, its totally worth it.

I pay $15 a month for unlimited data (and I have AT&T), so I don't consider twice that amount to be a steal. They charge extra just for the iPhone. Other plan-subsidized phones don't incur this fee.

I also don't like the pricing of the two models. $200 for the 16GB model, or $300 for the 32GB model. Since when does 16GB of space cost a hundred dollars? And the drives aren't user-replaceable, and it has no memory card slot.

I'm sure the amount of space is ample if you're just using it for apps, but it doesn't come in large enough capacities to take the place of my PMP.

That's only because you're thinking about it wrong. Do you own a video game system? a camera? a video camera? a graphing calculator? a GPS? an MP3 player? an MP4 player? a portable internet/e-mail receiver? a PHONE? an alarm clock? etc......

Almost any smartphone can use the internet, email, and has a camera and video camera. There is a free J2ME-based GPS app available, as well as a free graphing calculator app. MP3 and video capability are also standard nowadays, although the iPhone has an advantage in storage. There are also plenty of J2ME games around to keep anyone busy; the iPhone probably has some nicer games, but who cares? I would only ever use cell phone games to busy myself when I'm waiting around for something; I'd never use a download-only platform as a serious game machine. Oh yeah, here's an alarm clock too.

[Metal_Sonic]

Yes, I "ignored" your testimony because you simply chalked up people who complain about overheating as "sensitive skinned little twats need to grow a pair" and "bullshit gossip among drama queens". These complaints are coming up more and more, you gonna tell me its just gossip between drama queens? Read the comments on the article, are they just sissies? About the things blowing up:

As of yet, we haven’t heard of any iPhone 3G batteries exploding like so many laptop batteries have recently, but tmcnet, PCWorld, ChannelWeb, MacDailyNews, and several other online tech publications have all reported on the story, often with first-hand accounts.

Now, point to me the part where ALL these people had their iPhones for two weeks since you must have some info I don't know about. I also find it funny that you defend Apple when people made a thread about the problem which Apple then closes. Of course they're gonna close it, they stand to lose money about it. Shit, they should recall the batteries, they have a life so short Apple advises you not to use anything too hardware intensive, INCLUDING 3G. Yea, thats a cool phone "USE ALL OUR THE COOL FEATURES Just not too long." Overpriced piece of crap if you ask me.

[17daysolderthannes]

I hate people who are attached to their phones, and iPhones really seem to facilitate this. Everyone I know who has an iPhone hardly ever puts the damn thing down. I can understand the appeal of an all-in-one device that does everything well, but it just puzzles me when I see people at a party/kick-back/whatever who spend the entire time on the couch, texting their goddamn brains out.

When I go out it's usually to get away from the internet and video games, etc.

Those people did that shit even on Nokia brick phones back in the day. I don't do that shit. When I go out, its to be around people I don't see in my day to day life (mostly girls) and if I was to use the iPhone, it would be to get their number or to pull up a website/youtube video relevant to what we were talking about, etc. For instance, just last weekend I was getting my flirt on for like 2 hours with a girl and a couple youtube videos came up in the conversation. If I had my iPhone then, I could've brought them up and showed them right then and there. Its just those small things that make having like this with you all the time just plain convenient.

I pay $15 a month for unlimited data (and I have AT&T), so I don't consider twice that amount to be a steal. They charge extra just for the iPhone. Other plan-subsidized phones don't incur this fee.

I also don't like the pricing of the two models. $200 for the 16GB model, or $300 for the 32GB model. Since when does 16GB of space cost a hundred dollars? And the drives aren't user-replaceable, and it has no memory card slot.

I'm sure the amount of space is ample if you're just using it for apps, but it doesn't come in large enough capacities to take the place of my PMP.



Almost any smartphone can use the internet, email, and has a camera and video camera. There is a free J2ME-based GPS app available, as well as a free graphing calculator app. MP3 and video capability are also standard nowadays, although the iPhone has an advantage in storage. There are also plenty of J2ME games around to keep anyone busy; the iPhone probably has some nicer games, but who cares? I would only ever use cell phone games to busy myself when I'm waiting around for something; I'd never use a download-only platform as a serious game machine. Oh yeah, here's an alarm clock too.

Suffice it to say you're another one of those people that don't understand why a Mac is better than a PC even though a roughly equivalent PC is cheaper. I've used other people's smartphones and the word "headache" sums up pretty much all of them. Anything you do requires way too much bullshitting around. My dad has had a Black Jack, Black Jack 2, and currently has a Blackberry and he would kill for an iPhone. With Apple products, all of the little things that other companies ignore add up to one really big difference.