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    IMO, I love Sonic 3 and it's music, but I don't like S&K. The levels and music just aren't as good.
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    I find Sonic 3 less attractive than 1. For me Sonic 1 holds the view of what Sonic games should look like. Mind you I enjoyed the crap out of Sonic & Knuckles and Sonic 3, but they weren't as challenging as the first one nor did they have the same charm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    IMO, I love Sonic 3 and it's music, but I don't like S&K. The levels and music just aren't as good.
    Gotta love the Michael Jackson style miniboss/ending music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    IMO, I love Sonic 3 and it's music, but I don't like S&K. The levels and music just aren't as good.
    Pretty much.

    Sonic 3 is the better part, S & K are the left-overs.

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    Sonic 3 by itself doesn't hold a candle to Sonic 2, but once you lock on Sonic & Knuckles and play it how it was originally intended to be played, you have a big Sonic game.


    only thing I don't like about S&K is how it replaces some of Sonic 3's midi tunes.
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    they're not MIDI, they're SMPS...

    and Sonic2 sucks compared to either Sonic3 or S&K alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TmEE View Post
    Sonic2 sucks compared to either Sonic3 or S&K alone.
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    Yeah that's blasphemy right there. S3&K together isn't even as good as Sonic 2 by itself!

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    Can someone explain to me what Sonic game will be in the Gencore, Firecore because if its just sonic & knuckles add on then how can it play in the first place?

    Doesn't it need one of the three previous sonic cartridges to work?
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    ^Sonic & Knuckles plays like any other cartridge. It holds the second "half" of the zones that compliment those of Sonic 3 (Both games were made as one, then sliced into two for size constrictions; and by size I mean price). Sonic 2, Sonic 3 and SnKs can all be seen as the same story in terms of continuity. Therefore, since Sonic 2 is a different game as well, then Sonic 3 and SnKs independently may also be seen, story-wise, as two different games, since the continuity of Sonic 3 also takes place right after the events of Sonic 2 (and by right after, I mean right after he falls from the space ship and into the island that Knuckles protects).

    ...Technically, all the games in question (Sonic 1,2 and 3) are the add-ons to SnKs themselves. By mixing one of them with SnKs you will unlock certain aspects made available through the latter. It is crucial that you lock onto Sonic 3 if you want to save the SnKs levels, for it is in Sonic 3 that the memory is stored.

    P.S.> Storywise, it is ilogical to see Knuckles in Sonic 2. Technically, by way of one of Dr. Robotnik's inventions, some random element not explained, or even the powers of "the island" (like in the show LOST, seen later on), it can only be that knuckles is having a dream by being in the world of Sonic 2, or that he is being transported into the past, without consequences, by one of said elements. I like to think the island made him have that dream of experiencing the events of Sonic 2 as part of his reconciliation with Sonic and Tails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuickSciFi View Post
    ...Technically, all the games in question (Sonic 1,2 and 3) are the add-ons to SnKs themselves. By mixing one of them with SnKs you will unlock certain aspects made available through the latter. It is crucial that you lock onto Sonic 3 if you want to save the SnKs levels, for it is in Sonic 3 that the memory is stored.
    Sonic 1 doesn't work for that.... (other than blue sphere like any other non mixable cart)

    Just Sonic 3&K and Knuckles in Sonic 2. Unfortunately the PC S&K collection only has Sonic 3, S3&K, and S&K, no S2 in K...
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    Dude it’s the bios that marries the 16 bit and the 8 bit that makes it 24 bit. If SNK released their double speed bios revision SNK would have had the world’s first 48 bit machine, IDK how you keep ignoring this.
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    the PCE, that system has no extra silicone for music, how many resources are used to make music and it has less sprites than the MD on screen at once but a larger sprite area?

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    ^Doesn't work for what, exactly? To unlock the certain aspects made available through SnKs I spoke of? Such as making Knuckles a playable character in Sonic 2? Or perhaps unlocking the Blue Sphere levels on SnKs by locking onto Sonic 1?

    Oh Kool kitty89, how did I know you would come to antagonize me? It's almost essential to sega-16 . Like I said, Technically, all the games in question (Sonic 1,2 and 3) are the add-ons to SnKs themselves (considering Edge's analogy). By mixing one of them with SnKs you will unlock certain aspects made available through the latter.

    Quote Originally Posted by kool kitty89 View Post
    Sonic 1 doesn't work for that.... (other than blue sphere like any other non mixable cart)...
    Are you implying that ANY sega genesis cartridge will unlock the blue sphere special levels as the same game stored in SnKs that you see when locking onto the Sonic 1 cart? If you looked closely, some, not all, cartridges unlock a different kind of blue sphere game than the one seen when locking onto the Sonic 1 cart. For one, you get to select the different levels, starting from level 1, and the code, as it appears on the bottom, varies from them. In fact, depending on what non-sonic cart (that does work) you lock onto, you will get a different starting level. It's just not the same experience as locking onto the Sonic 1 cart.
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    Sonic 3 is better than Sonic 2. Yeah, I said it, big deal, wanna fight about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuickSciFi View Post
    Oh Kool kitty89, how did I know you would come to antagonize me? It's almost essential to sega-16 . Like I said, Technically, all the games in question (Sonic 1,2 and 3) are the add-ons to SnKs themselves (considering Edge's analogy). By mixing one of them with SnKs you will unlock certain aspects made available through the latter.
    Sorry, I didn't mean to sound harsh/antagonizing.

    And yeah, I forgot Sonic 1 was the only one that unlocked all the blue sphere levels.

    Still, I meant it won't do the same kind of thing Sonic 2 or 3 does when locked on -ie Knuckles in Sonic 1.
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    Dude it’s the bios that marries the 16 bit and the 8 bit that makes it 24 bit. If SNK released their double speed bios revision SNK would have had the world’s first 48 bit machine, IDK how you keep ignoring this.
    Quote Originally Posted by evilevoix View Post
    the PCE, that system has no extra silicone for music, how many resources are used to make music and it has less sprites than the MD on screen at once but a larger sprite area?

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