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    What do you think it means ?
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    The Mega Drive was far inferior to the NES in terms of diffusion rate and sales in the Japanese market, though there were ardent Sega users. But in the US and Europe, we knew Sega could challenge Nintendo. We aimed at dominating those markets, hiring experienced staff for our overseas department in Japan, and revitalising Sega of America and the ailing Virgin group in Europe.

    Then we set about developing killer games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christuserloeser View Post
    What do you think it means ?
    A fascist is someone who believes in or promotes fascism.

    Fascism: A governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
    I don't see how any of the comments about the Wii being over-priced and a disgrace to the SNES as being "fascist". Now if someone had made a comment like "The ONLY good console is the XBox 360 - God knows them yellow-skinned devils can't make game consoles." THAT would be a fascist comment.

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    I'm satisfied with the Wii's virtual content, but the realization that it will probably be replaced in 2 years has me wondering where the effort went regarding boxed software.

    http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/s...oesnt-see-big/

    If true, I can see this backfiring for Nintendo due to the same 'abandonment' mentality inspired by Sega years ago, unless the Wii has a ridiculous amount of awesome games show up in the next 2 cycles, it "Will" have alienated some fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chilly Willy View Post
    A fascist is someone who believes in or promotes fascism.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_(epithet)

    In this sense, the word fascist is intended to mean "oppressive", "intolerant", "chauvinist", "genocidal", "dictatorial", "racist", or "aggressive" – all concepts that are at least loosely inspired by the ideology of actual fascism. One might accuse an inconveniently placed police roadblock as being a "fascist tactic" or an overly authoritarian teacher as being "a total fascist". Terms like Nazi and Hitlerite, are often used (correctly or incorrectly) in similar contexts.
    - I wasn't 110% serious. But I indeed was interested what TheEdge would think that Fascism meant.



    Quote Originally Posted by Chilly Willy View Post
    I don't see how any of the comments about the Wii being over-priced and a disgrace to the SNES as being "fascist".
    Me neither. - The initial post where I was referring to "you guys" (mainly aimed towards TheEdge who posted twice above me and also immediately replied to my post as if I was adressing him directly) as "Wii fascists" was "if I'm a conservative gamer" (that's what I usually would consider myself, but I might as well be utterly wrong with my self perception), "[then, and only then] you guys are [...] Wii fascists."
    The Mega Drive was far inferior to the NES in terms of diffusion rate and sales in the Japanese market, though there were ardent Sega users. But in the US and Europe, we knew Sega could challenge Nintendo. We aimed at dominating those markets, hiring experienced staff for our overseas department in Japan, and revitalising Sega of America and the ailing Virgin group in Europe.

    Then we set about developing killer games.

    - Hayao Nakayama, Mega Drive Collected Works (p. 17)

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    I bought one last week on impulse, as my daughter has been pestering me for one for months. With Wiiware and the few decent games that interest me, it's a decent 3rd system to have. I can't imagine anyone having only a Wii though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genocide-superstar View Post
    N64 was sweet, platformer heaven.
    It was an Oasis in the middle of a desert. You were just happy to have water.


    The SNES and Genesis were racing, sports, RPGs, SRPGs, platformer, shooter, fighter, puzzle, racing and adventure heaven.

    The N64 was like the commercial with the girl on the bicycle in the center of the box. The guy tells her she can ride it, but only inside the designated area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamevet View Post
    I wouldn't pay $100 less for that console which is pretty much an insult to anyone that supported Nintendo for all of these years.

    It's bad enough that Nintendo followed up one of the greatest consoles of all-time the Gamecube.


    The whole reason for the Wii Bashing is that all of you are hardcore gamers, which is why you can't find anything on the system.

    It's the only new-gen system I own myself, and although I don't get much use out of it (especially by myself) when friends come over I'll play it.

    I do want to get NiGHTS and Wii Sports Resort for it though, maybe that will rekindle my time with the system. Wii Sports Resort I did really like a lot, a lot of the games on there were really fun. Also looking forward to New Super Mario Bros. Wii. As for the games I have:

    Smash Bros got stale and the online sucks.
    Mario Kart is good but not alone.
    Super Mario Galaxy just got old for some reason.
    And both Wii Play and Wii Sports suck.
    Disney Th!nk Fast is too kiddy.

    Yeah, it's a very casual system, not meant for people like you and I. There's just not many 1-player games on the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melf View Post
    I bought one last week on impulse, as my daughter has been pestering me for one for months. With Wiiware and the few decent games that interest me, it's a decent 3rd system to have. I can't imagine anyone having only a Wii though.
    That was my exact reasoning when trying to explain to my brother why the Wii will end up outselling PS3 and Xbox 360 combined. It's most people's second system, meant as a crazy alternative to the 360 or PS3. On top of that, it's being bought by millions of people who only have a fleeting interest in video games and don't care if it's not an HD system.

    I like mine, but it definitely doesn't get as much attention as my 360 or DS. It does, however, get a lot more attention than my PS3. You just have to search out the gems.

    HOD: Overkill, for example, has been a pleasant surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genocide-superstar View Post
    N64 was sweet, platformer heaven.


    you mean all of those awkward, blurry, boring, and generic platformers with cameras operated by an ape with Parkinson's? Mario 64 was tolerable...and that's about it.




    Also, where was all of this anti-Wii support when I was getting blasted by the peanut gallery in the Natal thread?

    In a related story, I just bought Blast Works for Wii hoping for an innovative shooter romp with an awesome ship customizing tool. If anyone needs a coaster, I've got one. FML, the Wii is just a money pit: I keep trying to find a game to redeem it, and keep getting slammed and put even deeper into buyer's remorse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InternalPrimate View Post
    That was my exact reasoning when trying to explain to my brother why the Wii will end up outselling PS3 and Xbox 360 combined. It's most people's second system, meant as a crazy alternative to the 360 or PS3. On top of that, it's being bought by millions of people who only have a fleeting interest in video games and don't care if it's not an HD system.
    This is why I bought the Wii initially. Historically, systems priced below $300 (in this case almost half the price of the competitors) tend to sell ridiculous amounts of units. Hell, the PS2 is still selling like hotcakes even though the only games really coming out anymore is Guitar Hero-type games and a handful of last minute Japanese translations or retro compilations. I took this high-sales logic and assumed that, like the PS2, the best selling system of its generation, would lead to a smorgasbord of great games for the Wii. Boy was I wrong. Toy Story is coming out with a new game, guess what genre defying powerhouse it is going to be? ANOTHER FUCKING MINI GAME COMPILATION! I'd rather play Toy Story for Genesis any day of the year. FML, the Wii is a black hole of shit. There are only tolerable Wii games, no good ones.

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    Baloo, read his statement more carefully:
    Quote Originally Posted by gamevet View Post
    It's bad enough that Nintendo followed up one of the greatest consoles of all-time with the N64 and then the Gamecube. It's as if they had some secret plan to rid themselves of actual gamers.
    By "greatest console" he meant SNES, with N64 and GC being dissapointing by comparison.

    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    The whole reason for the Wii Bashing is that all of you are hardcore gamers, which is why you can't find anything on the system.

    It's the only new-gen system I own myself, and although I don't get much use out of it (especially by myself) when friends come over I'll play it.

    I do want to get NiGHTS and Wii Sports Resort for it though, maybe that will rekindle my time with the system. Wii Sports Resort I did really like a lot, a lot of the games on there were really fun. Also looking forward to New Super Mario Bros. Wii. As for the games I have:

    Smash Bros got stale and the online sucks.
    Mario Kart is good but not alone.
    Super Mario Galaxy just got old for some reason.
    And both Wii Play and Wii Sports suck.
    Disney Th!nk Fast is too kiddy.

    Yeah, it's a very casual system, not meant for people like you and I. There's just not many 1-player games on the system.
    Yeah, it's our only current gen console as well and it gets more use with Gamecube games than Wii ones. I do definitely prefer Brawl to Melee though, but I think I still like the original best.


    Quote Originally Posted by Chilly Willy View Post
    Wow! Now it's only twice as expensive as it should be!
    Yeah, when I first saw this thread I was going to make some comment on how it's now the same price as the GameCube (with nearly idntical hardware) was at launch, but then I thought about how it'd probably turn into a remble and taking inflation into account and such. Still, it's probably the first console that's been sold for profit (or significant profit at least) since the PlayStation launched. (and they must be making a decent profit considering the hardware, plus the accessories) If they can sell it at these prices, it doesn't make buisness sense to drop it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Melf View Post
    I bought one last week on impulse, as my daughter has been pestering me for one for months. With Wiiware and the few decent games that interest me, it's a decent 3rd system to have. I can't imagine anyone having only a Wii though.
    Ony console as in ony current-gen console, or only game system at all?


    Quote Originally Posted by gamevet View Post
    It was an Oasis in the middle of a desert. You were just happy to have water.


    The SNES and Genesis were racing, sports, RPGs, SRPGs, platformer, shooter, fighter, puzzle, racing and adventure heaven.

    The N64 was like the commercial with the girl on the bicycle in the center of the box. The guy tells her she can ride it, but only inside the designated area.
    I've mentioned this before, but we never had that problem, mainly because we got our N64 in late 1999 and there were already a fair number of games we knew we wanted. (and of course SSB was new) Still, for several freinds who'd gotten it in '96/97 it wasn't that lmiting either, the average kid only getting a few new games a year anyway. (along with some cheaper ones for their older consoles, of which pretty much all of them did) A lot of it also probably has to do with our ages at the time as well. (the party games in particular, Mario Kart, DK Racing, Goldeneye, Star Fox 64, and of couse SSB but that was later)
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    Dude it’s the bios that marries the 16 bit and the 8 bit that makes it 24 bit. If SNK released their double speed bios revision SNK would have had the world’s first 48 bit machine, IDK how you keep ignoring this.
    Quote Originally Posted by evilevoix View Post
    the PCE, that system has no extra silicone for music, how many resources are used to make music and it has less sprites than the MD on screen at once but a larger sprite area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christuserloeser View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_(epithet)

    - I wasn't 110% serious. But I indeed was interested what TheEdge would think that Fascism meant.

    Me neither. - The initial post where I was referring to "you guys" (mainly aimed towards TheEdge who posted twice above me and also immediately replied to my post as if I was adressing him directly) as "Wii fascists" was "if I'm a conservative gamer" (that's what I usually would consider myself, but I might as well be utterly wrong with my self perception), "[then, and only then] you guys are [...] Wii fascists."
    Ah, okay. That's for explaining that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Melf
    I bought one last week on impulse, as my daughter has been pestering me for one for months.
    Perfect timing! Just managed to avoid that pesky price reduction!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kool kitty89 View Post
    Baloo, read his statement more carefully:

    By "greatest console" he meant SNES, with N64 and GC being dissapointing by comparison.
    Ah.


    Yeah, it's our only current gen console as well and it gets more use with Gamecube games than Wii ones. I do definitely prefer Brawl to Melee though, but I think I still like the original best.
    I agree, the Original definitely had the most solid gameplay. And I also use my Wii for Gamecube games once in a while.
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    $199 is a great investment for the upcoming year:

    New Super Mario Bros. Wii
    Silent Hill Shattered Memories
    Red Steel 2
    Raving Rabbids Go Home
    No More Heroes 2
    Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers
    A Boy and his Blob
    Tatsunoko Vs Capcom
    Dead Space Extraction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    I agree, the Original definitely had the most solid gameplay. And I also use my Wii for Gamecube games once in a while.
    Did you already have a GameCube, or did you get GC games for the Wii?

    We mainly end up using the Wii for GC since out GC is packed away currently, it was less so a while ago when we had it hooked up to a second TV, but we ended up packing it up a while back and haven;t set it up again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evilevoix View Post
    Dude it’s the bios that marries the 16 bit and the 8 bit that makes it 24 bit. If SNK released their double speed bios revision SNK would have had the world’s first 48 bit machine, IDK how you keep ignoring this.
    Quote Originally Posted by evilevoix View Post
    the PCE, that system has no extra silicone for music, how many resources are used to make music and it has less sprites than the MD on screen at once but a larger sprite area?

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