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    Quote Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes View Post
    Yeah, the PC is a weird beast. Usually it will have the most graphically and audio-ally advanced versions of a game, but what it lacks is a consistent controller layout (sorry, keyboard+mouse=sucks) and compatibility. I don't think I've ever bought a game (other than Mac, of course) for any PC and had it work 100% perfect. Either the computer was too old and it ran slow, or it was too new and had compatibility issues from newer versions of OS. XP and later Vista were notorious for this sort of thing. It's funny that running a DOS EMULATOR is the best way to enjoy these games outside of owning a time-relevant DOS based computer. Hopefully as DOSBox progresses we'll be able to enjoy this games properly and consistently without hardware related glitches of old.
    Well, I generally like the open-ended nature of choosing your own contoller and control scheme, granted it does tend to take a bit of trial and error to get the right feel, but that's better than being stuck with a fixed control layout you hate. And keyboard+mouse is definitely my preferred way to play FPSs.

    As for technically superior, that can vary, in cases that it is true, that's only for higher end PCs of the time. (others being capped at lower setting until later tech becomes cheap)
    However, PC games tend to far worse against brand new consoles. When the PlayStation and Saturn first came out, 3D acceleration hadn't quite gone mainstream yet, so it was all software driven and often still in VGA mode 13h (320x200 256 colors), compare DOS Tomb Raider to PSX or Saturn. (in that case the PC version did still have 2 advantages, 1 being perspective corrected textures in "high detail" mode, and a 640x480 res mode in addition to 320x200)
    Now jump ahead a couple years for a very direct comparison and you've got Tomb Raider II with hardware acceleration, supporting from 320x200 up to 1440x900 (not that many would have run it much over 640x480 around the time of release), z-buffering, bilinear filtering, full perspective corrected textures, and high or true color display modes. (on top of a fall-back 256 color software renderer for those w/out 3D cards -but still offering the same selections of resolutions)

    After 3d acceleration it changed somewhat, but that's still fairly true, comparing contemporary PC games with more recent console releases close to launch. (even Xbox which uses PC hardware) With the exception of cutting edge (and exceptionally expensive) gaming PCs. -also with th eexception of resolution, that's been one consistant advantage on PC for a lot of stuff (outside of old mode 13h of course), in good part due to consoles being oriented toward SD (240p/480i and 720 horizontal practical max -due to dot pitch), but even with 480p becoming more common (in 5th gen, standard on DC and I think on Xbox and GC as well) PCs were well ahead of that by then (1024x768 being pretty common, 800x600 common before that), and with HD consoles PC was ahead of that as well (with lots being 720, any real 1080p stuff woud be closer, but still a good bit behind what PC games tend to support).
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    the PCE, that system has no extra silicone for music, how many resources are used to make music and it has less sprites than the MD on screen at once but a larger sprite area?

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    to me super mario world just doesnt have the same charm as super mario bros 3.
    You speak truthful gospel, Shadow Dancer.

    I've always found SMW to be good, but nothing to get moist in the panties over compared to SMB3.

    The jump from SMB---->SMB3 was fantastic....it was everything done in SMB, but done better.

    SMB3--->SMW...evolutionary, but not revolutionary. Everything we did in SMB3 (castles, Bowser kids, flying) but now with less power-ups and lamer flying...but we got Yoshi.


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    Underrated: Panasonic 3DO

    Overrated: Sony Playstation


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    Overrated:
    Xbox 360
    Phillips CDi
    (I've yet to find a "good" game for it. And that is coming from your regular "glass-half-full" kind of guy).

    Underrated:
    Sega CD (Three letters and an "s" for pluralization: RPGs. Ok, maybe a bit more: It makes me wonder all of the time why people still question if the Genesis had any RPGs, especially when compared to the SNES. Combine the Genesis+Sega CD and you have as many of the RPG genre as any system can afford. I'm talking about more than 100, that's close to 1/10th of the overall system's(+add-on's) library).
    Sega 32X (I mean, seriously, for a system/add-on that died so soon, it received a VAST number of titles, IMO; and great ones, I might add).
    Sega Saturn (I know, this console is well understood by many; and, sure, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Shining Force III and Radiant Silvergun demand quite a hefty sum, but the console itself still goes for less than $30. I call that highly underrated).
    Sega Dreamcast (Even more underrated than the Saturn and, perhaps, the most underrated system OF ALL TIME).
    NeoGeo AES and NeoGeo CD (I mean, seriously, this is a weird spot for me to place it, it being probably the most expensive console for which to collect; but the truth of it is, in current times, people have opted too much for its emulation--not to mention a vast number of its ports. Nowadays, the AES, and CD, have become strictly collector-sensed items.)
    3DO
    Jaguar (Weird, I know, it being so expensive still, but I do happen to love a good number of 2D Sidescrolling Platformers that most people have chosen to ignore over their conscious effort to trash its horrendous 3D library, or lack of it, I might say; me being one of them).

    Currently Rated (Appreciated) as they should be: (This doesn't mean they are appreciated equally or that the same value is given to them, it just means that the particular "Peak" value for them, respectively, has been reached in current times)

    Sega Genesis
    NES
    SNES
    Atari 2600
    (All I can say is, it had a good run. Sure, it is loosing value, FAST, but it still remains well appreciated in current times)
    Turbografx 16 (I mean, seriously, all that's stopping anyone is the price; which essentially makes it well rated/appreciated).
    Xbox (This is one of the best systems ever made. It is practical, and it is tough--tougher than the PS2, I might say. Makes me wonder whatever happened to its successor, the 360. The reason this is such a long explanation is that, currently, although not necessarily underrated, it is loosing its value dramatically fast. I honestly see no reason for this. The Console itself still demands a good $50-$60, but that is only because it's from the last generation).
    PS1
    PS2
    PS3
    Wii
    Gamecube
    N64
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuickSciFi View Post
    Overrated:
    Phillips CDi
    You do realise most of the attention it gets is because it is being mocked, right?

    I say it fits better in 'Currently Rated (Appreciated) as they should be'.

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    Underrated:

    Gamecube. I love it's controller(save for the D-Pad), and I still enjoyed many happy years playing a fair few games on there.

    XBox.
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    And saving games to an internal HDD was the bestest thing ever, no more dicking around with memory cards.
    This, mainly. A very solid platform all 'round, which I'm still enjoying with others today.

    Master System. My first console, grew up with Sonic, Alex Kidd, Wonderboy 3, Castle of Illusion, Rainbow Islands, Lucky Dime Caper and dozens of other titles that I bought back then. And it was good.


    Can't really think of any overrated systems I've played.

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    Underrated:
    I used to think the Genesis was underrated when compared to the SNES but the Genesis has this community and I don't see any place like this for the SNES so I think the Genesis gets it due.

    Overrated:
    PS2. I finally got one this summer and aside from Vice City I haven't found a game that's held my interest for more than a week.

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    Underrated: 3DO, Saturn, Sega CD, 32x (love them, still play them)

    Overrated: N64, PS1, PS3 (didn't own a N64 until last year, not as many good games as I thought, Got it mostly for MK4!)
    PS1 was suppose to be the SNESCD (which is what it should of stayed as) PS3 (nice blueray player you got there!)

    Quote Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes View Post
    underrated:
    N-Gage QD (for it's time, it was a beast of a portable emulator AND IT WAS A PHONE!!!! why did people not pick up on that? you get your games and phone all in one package!)
    I got it when it first came out! GREAT Genesis Emulator on it! Ran quite nice, yeah small screen, but compared to what? And the sound quality on the phone was kick ass, and even when I didn't have phone service, somehow I could get free internet, and I'm not talkin about Wi-Fi! it was pretty sweet! But I sat on it and broke the screen... DAMN IT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by genesisguy View Post
    Underrated:
    I used to think the Genesis was underrated when compared to the SNES but the Genesis has this community and I don't see any place like this for the SNES so I think the Genesis gets it due.

    Overrated:
    PS2. I finally got one this summer and aside from Vice City I haven't found a game that's held my interest for more than a week.
    Don't worry. I'm sure you will find something. There are only a couple thousand more to try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lizard View Post
    Don't worry. I'm sure you will find something. There are only a couple thousand more to try.
    the exact reason PS2 kicks every other system's ass.

    On PS2, you don't buy "the good games," you buy the good games that are exactly what you're looking for. It's not like the fucking Wii where it's mario or you're SOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes View Post
    the exact reason PS2 kicks every other system's ass.

    On PS2, you don't buy "the good games," you buy the good games that are exactly what you're looking for. It's not like the fucking Wii where it's mario or you're SOL.
    Don't Dawg my Wii!!! I agree there is alot of shit... but not all Mario Games are great Either! Not a big fan of Mario Galaxy....

    Great Wii exclusive games include
    Excite Truck
    Excitebots
    Conduit
    Tales of Monkey Island (wiiware)
    Tetris Party Wiiware
    Bomberman Wiiware
    MadWorld
    Metroid Prime 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes View Post
    ummm, 99.9% of the internet and the real world loves the shit out of the Dreamcast and shits all over the 32X, so I don't really understand your post there. While I also love the Dreamcast, I constantly have to fight tooth and nail to defend the 32X's honor.
    So you like the 32X? I don't think it's that good.

    IMO the Dreamcast got overlooked by the vast majority up against the PS2, Xbox etc.

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    From my own point of view currently, Kids nowadays that I see are all about graphics and shooters. Anything that's from a early 90's is OLD and Dumb...yet that cant play em for shit because they are too hard..ah poor baby you need a tutorial for every game you play in the beggining.
    Overrated - PS3/ 360
    Underrated-retro gaming (pre 1995)

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    Overrated: Intellivision, PS1, N64, Dreamcast (most overrated system, in my opinion. and I am talking about overrated now. I think it was underrated at it's time.) Nintendo Wii (c'mon, minus the great hits it's all shovelware).

    Underrated: Colecovision, Sega Master System, TurboGrafx 16, Sega Saturn, Nintendo Gamecube, PS3 (I think, maybe.)
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